Re: [tuning] fretless and fretted guitars

on 12/28/00 1:45 AM, tuning@egroups.com at tuning@egroups.com wrote:

> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:24:09 -0000
> From: earth7@optonline.net
> Subject: Fretless guitar necks vs. Fretted
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm new to the tuning group and glad to be on board. I'm 43 yrs. old
> and have been playing guitar since 1973 (electric and acoustic).
> I've been tooling up to build guitars for quite some time. Have
> been involved in various bands and have a deep interest in
> studying music theory and musicology. I've been studying Just
> Intonation for the past few months and cannot believe how this topic
> has escaped my attention for so many years (Thank God for the
> internet).

Hi Wally,

I'm one of the newer people on the list, but I've been interested in and
exploring JI on guitar and other instruments for about a dozen years.

If you play slide, I think that's a great way to get into JI. When I started
with JI, I tuned an instrument to all 1/1 and 3/2s (DADDAD tuned down,
EBEEBE tuned up, and DGDDGD tuned down or EAEEAE tuned up). I used various
methods of learning to try to play the just intervals accurately, including
matching my slid notes to harmonics on the 1/1 string, occasionally using an
electronic tuner. Later I got a luthier to refret a cheap guitar to 31 tET,
this helped my ear a lot, I could then match slid notes to those tones as
well. I do feel however, that my biggest tool in learning JI has been
following my intuition. I have to say that for me, learning about JI struck
something that was inherent in my deepest psyche, once I'd hit a note right,
I just KNEW that that was it.

Right now, I'm actively trying to find an acoustic guitar to de-fret, I feel
'just' about ready to jump into the deep end...

Best wishes,

Seth

------
Seth Austen
http://www.sethausten.com
email; seth@sethausten.com

--
"To be nobody-but-myself -- in a world which is doing its best, night and
day, to make you everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which
any human being can fight, and never stop fighting."
-- e.e. cummings

Hi Seth

Boy it's hard keeping up with all the new contacts in the group.
Thanks for touching base on the Fretted vs non Fret topic.

Yes, I do play slide and will look forward to reading any
advice on setting a guitar up for a specific tuning.

Thanks

Wally

--- In tuning@egroups.com, Seth Austen <acoustic@l...> wrote:
> on 12/28/00 1:45 AM, tuning@egroups.com at tuning@egroups.com wrote:
>
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:24:09 -0000
> > From: earth7@o...
> > Subject: Fretless guitar necks vs. Fretted
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm new to the tuning group and glad to be on board. I'm 43 yrs.
old
> > and have been playing guitar since 1973 (electric and acoustic).
> > I've been tooling up to build guitars for quite some time. Have
> > been involved in various bands and have a deep interest in
> > studying music theory and musicology. I've been studying Just
> > Intonation for the past few months and cannot believe how this
topic
> > has escaped my attention for so many years (Thank God for the
> > internet).
>
> Hi Wally,
>
> I'm one of the newer people on the list, but I've been interested in
and
> exploring JI on guitar and other instruments for about a dozen
years.
>
> If you play slide, I think that's a great way to get into JI. When I
started
> with JI, I tuned an instrument to all 1/1 and 3/2s (DADDAD tuned
down,
> EBEEBE tuned up, and DGDDGD tuned down or EAEEAE tuned up). I used
various
> methods of learning to try to play the just intervals accurately,
including
> matching my slid notes to harmonics on the 1/1 string, occasionally
using an
> electronic tuner. Later I got a luthier to refret a cheap guitar to
31 tET,
> this helped my ear a lot, I could then match slid notes to those
tones as
> well. I do feel however, that my biggest tool in learning JI has
been
> following my intuition. I have to say that for me, learning about JI
struck
> something that was inherent in my deepest psyche, once I'd hit a
note right,
> I just KNEW that that was it.
>
> Right now, I'm actively trying to find an acoustic guitar to
de-fret, I feel
> 'just' about ready to jump into the deep end...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Seth
>
> ------
> Seth Austen
> http://www.sethausten.com
> email; seth@s...
>
> --
> "To be nobody-but-myself -- in a world which is doing its best,
night and
> day, to make you everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle
which
> any human being can fight, and never stop fighting."
> -- e.e. cummings