Jazzy multi-voice sequences retuned

I've just uploaded first examples of adaptive tuning on multi-voice
sequences. They're jazzy standards, and to my ear, great stuff! See if
you don't agree it's surprising that separate notes in separate voices
could all be crammed into 15 available midi channels (plus the drum
channel). I never thought I'd hear these sequences retuned till I had
32 channels available, so this is a VERY pleasant surprise to me! Some
other sequences, including a nice version of "In the Mood", did overflow.

To download, go to http://www.egroups.com/files/tuning/, change into
the JMids directory, and download three files there:

nyny.zip "New York, New York", three tunings
sanFran.zip "I Left My Heart in San Francisco", three tunings
fly2moon.zip "Fly Me to the Moon", three tunings

I've included the original 12-tET, 5-limit adaptive, and 7-limit
adaptive. The adaptive tunings all use fairly rigid vertical springs.
I don't want to flood everybody with too many versions, but I can make
softer vertical versions if anyone's interested; this would be more like
the spring set I'm using for piano-only sequences now, with less
horizontal motion than the rigid set has.

Try the seven; this IS 20th century music!

JdL

--- In tuning@egroups.com, "John A. deLaubenfels" <jdl@a...> wrote:
> I've just uploaded first examples of adaptive tuning on multi-voice
> sequences. They're jazzy standards, and to my ear, great stuff!
See if
> you don't agree it's surprising that separate notes in separate
voices
> could all be crammed into 15 available midi channels (plus the drum
> channel).

That is amazing! It sounds like your program is making choices in a
more refined way than it was a few months ago. Or maybe this music
lends itself better to retuning than the romantic piano stuff?

I think the horns, winds, and bass sound great retuned. If I were
you, I'd leave the piano and vibes in 12 EDO. To me, they too often
sound "funny" or "wrong" not being fixed pitch, especially the
piano. It makes me feel ungrounded to have the piano pitches
floating around. I'm sure that's due to expectations of what a piano
should be after years of playing and listening to them. But I also
think that the contrast of tunings between fixed and flexible
intonation instruments is part of the style.

David Finnamore

[I wrote:]
>>I've just uploaded first examples of adaptive tuning on multi-voice
>>sequences. They're jazzy standards, and to my ear, great stuff! See if
>>you don't agree it's surprising that separate notes in separate voices
>>could all be crammed into 15 available midi channels (plus the drum
>>channel).

[David Finnamore:]
>That is amazing! It sounds like your program is making choices in a
>more refined way than it was a few months ago. Or maybe this music
>lends itself better to retuning than the romantic piano stuff?

>I think the horns, winds, and bass sound great retuned. If I were
>you, I'd leave the piano and vibes in 12 EDO. To me, they too often
>sound "funny" or "wrong" not being fixed pitch, especially the
>piano. It makes me feel ungrounded to have the piano pitches
>floating around. I'm sure that's due to expectations of what a piano
>should be after years of playing and listening to them. But I also
>think that the contrast of tunings between fixed and flexible
>intonation instruments is part of the style.

Thanks for the feedback, David! Your suggestion is very interesting,
something my program is not capable of doing at present but certainly
possible.

I think maybe I shouldn't have used the rigid vertical springs I did;
my own ear is so used to "ungrounded piano" that it doesn't shock me
any more, but I do agree that retuning of horns, winds, and strings is
less jarring than piano (and perhaps vibes as well...)

I'm going to send you a coupla versions off-list with a more usual
balance of spring coefficients; things are more grounded overall.
Please let me know what you think.

JdL

John,

Congratulations on your first multitimbral sequences! The stiffer
springs sound great, while multiple timbres add a world of life,
regardless of tuning.

-Carl