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🔗Paul H. Erlich <PERLICH@ACADIAN-ASSET.COM>

10/10/2000 11:52:32 AM

Brian Cohn Rabben wrote:

>can anyone direct me to any kind of research on the
>psychoacoustic/psychophysical, perhaps even (dare i say) emotional,
>impact of tuning/temperament systems? i'd like to deal with these issues
>for a final presentation in one of my classes this quarter.

Here are some papers you might want to look at:

Hall, D.E., Hess, J.T. 1984. Perception of musical interval tuning. Music
Perception. 2:166-195.
Elliott, J., Platt, J.R., Racine, R.J. 1987. Adjustment of successive and
simultaneous intervals by musically experienced and inexperienced subjects.
Perception and Psychophysics. 42:594-598.
Vos, J., van Vianen, B. G. 1984. Thresholds for discrimination between pure
and tempered intervals: the relevance of nearly coinciding harmonics.
Journal of the Acoustic Society of America. 77: 176-187.
Vos, J., van Vianen, B. G. 1985. The effect of fundamental frequency on the
discriminability between pure and tempered fifths and major thirds.
Perception and Psychophysics. 37: 507-514.
Vos, J. 1988. Subjective acceptability of various regular twelve-tone tuning
syustems in two-part musical fragments. Journal of the Acoustical Society of
America. 83:2383-2392.

You might also want to look through the Tuning Bibliography,
http://www.egroups.com/files/tuning/docs/bib.html.

🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

10/10/2000 5:02:53 PM

Yes
Barbara Hero did some work with inmates etc...
www.lambdoma.com

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Cohn Rabben <merlyn@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: <tuning@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: [tuning] (unknown)

> can anyone direct me to any kind of research on the
> psychoacoustic/psychophysical, perhaps even (dare i say) emotional,
> impact of tuning/temperament systems? i'd like to deal with these issues
> for a final presentation in one of my classes this quarter.
>
> much appreciated!
>
> -b
>
>
> perhaps i should re-introduce myself. my name is Brian Rabben. i'm
> currently pursuing a bachelor's degree in Sound Art Composition, an
> individual major i created, at UCSC.
>
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🔗manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com

11/10/2000 6:28:50 AM

Justin asked:
>Is there a formula for creating CS [maybe scala could do it] ?

Constant Structure is more a property than a kind of scale. Scala
can show whether a scale is CS, with SHOW DATA.
Periodicity blocks are created with the PIPEDUM command.

>For that matter can scala make MOS scales?

Yes, with the command PYTHAGOREAN.
Another way is to make a MOS selection from a given scale, an equal
temperament for example, with the MOS command.
To see whether a scale has Myhill's property, aka MOS, use again
SHOW DATA.

Manuel

🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

4/18/2002 4:36:40 PM

it's 440 if you like that sort of thing

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
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----- Original Message -----
From: bps1572ya <bps1572@mail.be>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 5:49 AM
Subject: [tuning] (unknown)

> Hi tuners,
>
> Recently I calculated the frequencies for a standard quarter comma
> meantone scale with Scala. Scala shows 437.3989 Hz for the tone A. I
> expected it to give 440 Hz. Until now, I thought that A was always
> 440 Hz nowadays, independent of the tuning. But since my Scala
> experiment I am not sure about that.
>
> Part of params.par looks like:
>
> [-------------------------------------
> ! Default frequency of middle C in Hz:
> 261.625565301
> -------------------------------------]
>
> so, according to Scala, it is middle C that always has the same
> frequency. And A is only equal to 440 Hz in 12 EDO.
>
> I find this very strange. Does anyone know whether this is right ?
>
> I used the following coomands to calculate the frequencies:
>
> [-------------------------------------
> calculate 3/2-$k^1/4
> pythagorean
> 12
> 2/1
> 7
> $0
> 3
> show /frequency
> -------------------------------------]
>
> I use Scala version 1.41 for DOS. Maybe that's an old one ?
>
> Bart Pauwels
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🔗David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@biink.com>

5/26/2002 9:45:02 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bailey" <cb202@columbia.edu>

> > From: David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@biink.com>

> > Thanks for the review. How was Patrick Grant's piece?
>
>
> That was fun. Kind of reminded me of a kitchen utensil version of
> Varese's Ionisation.

And what instrument was he playing?

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🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

5/10/2003 11:46:02 AM

>>BTW, you once told me the Who episodes you worked on. What were they
>>again (IIRC Kinda, and...)? I want to put that info in a safe place,
>>so when they're all out on DVD I can listen for your stuff.
>
>I never wrote any Who incidental music. I did randomly decide at one
>point to name pieces of mine after Who episodes. Hence "Castrovalva",
>"Timelash" (I think that's it.)

Oop. Sorry 'bout that.

-Carl

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>

5/11/2003 8:53:30 AM

>

Hello Christopher!
you might want to look at
http://www.anaphoria.com/sieve.PDF
which also has higher limits starting on page 7

>
> From: Christopher Bailey <cb202@columbia.edu>
> Subject: (unknown)
>
> >BTW, you once told me the Who episodes you worked on. What were they
> >again (IIRC Kinda, and...)? I want to put that info in a safe place,
> >so when they're all out on DVD I can listen for your stuff.
>
> I never wrote any Who incidental music. I did randomly decide at one
> point to name pieces of mine after Who episodes. Hence "Castrovalva",
> "Timelash" (I think that's it.)
>
> ***From: Christopher Bailey******************
>
> http://music.columbia.edu/~chris
>
> **********************************************
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:39:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Christopher Bailey <cb202@columbia.edu>
> Subject: 144-tet
>
> > C Bailey:
> >
> >> I was wondering if this was 144-tet, as a sort of even-better-than-
> >>72
> >> approximation of Just.
>
> > Paul Erlich:
> >unfortunately, 144-equal won't do that. but her super-just scale is
>
> Well, I assume it's not a worse approximation, except for maybe a
> consistency issue. Are there other issues, or is it just that other
> higher-than-72 ets are much better choices?
>
>

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