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Re: Good 5-limit scale generators

🔗Carl Lumma <CLUMMA@NNI.COM>

10/3/2000 12:15:39 AM

>> I am not familiar with the 9-note, but the 8-note one is commonly
>> called the "octatonic" scale. Messiaen is known for using it and
>> writing about it, but Stravinsky also used it extensively, and I
>> believe Rimski-Korsakov was the first to use it.
>
>And Bartok excessively... correct (??)

I know very little of Barktok's music, but what I've heard seems to
be mostly "exotic" modes of the diatonic scale.

-Carl

🔗Joseph Pehrson <pehrson@pubmedia.com>

10/3/2000 6:41:43 AM

--- In tuning@egroups.com, Carl Lumma <CLUMMA@N...> wrote:

http://www.egroups.com/message/tuning/13948

> >> I am not familiar with the 9-note, but the 8-note one is commonly
> >> called the "octatonic" scale. Messiaen is known for using it and
> >> writing about it, but Stravinsky also used it extensively, and I
> >> believe Rimski-Korsakov was the first to use it.
> >
> >And Bartok excessively... correct (??)
>
> I know very little of Barktok's music, but what I've heard seems to
> be mostly "exotic" modes of the diatonic scale.
>
> -Carl

Hi Carl...

I believe the octatonic is a "typically Bartok" scale... but we need
an "expert" or a little research here-- maybe when I get a chance...

In the meantime, here is a page I found concerning Bartok's use of
the "Golden Section." It mentions our "own" Kees van Prooijen!

http://www.bayarea.net/~kins/AboutMe/Bartok/BartokStuff.html

Also, as Paul Erlich mentioned, Ernst Bloch used the "octatonic."

Block --one of my favorite composers-- is actually a microtonalist...
well, he went as far as quartertones, anyway, for "expressive" means:

http://www.schirmer.com/composers/bloch_bio.html

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