xenharmonic Mahler

Christopher Bailey wrote, in
http://www.egroups.com/message/tuning/12667

a whole bunch of stuff about Mahler's 10th.

Chris, I can't guarantee when it will happen, but I promise that
if you keep coming back to my website, eventually you'll find
more xenharmonic Mahler there than you'd ever want. ;-)

I agree with you to some extent about the futility of trying to
retune that massive 9-note chord. Just yesterday I was working
on retuning the opening chord to my 'movie opening'
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/worklist/tripcn.mid

which has only 6 different notes, and even in that chord, until
the retuning of any individual note became greater than 15 or so
cents, the difference in sound was very subtle.

But, do keep in mind that Mahler symphonies are for *orchestra*,
which is inifitely retunable! He stopped composing on the piano
after the 3rd symphony, so its fixed tuning was not necessarily
in his mind as he wrote the 10th!

In fact, as his life progressed he was far more involved with
orchestras and singers (in his job as Opera Director) than he was
with pianos. His virtuosity on piano was strictly a part of his
youth. So I would argue that the 'fixed-tuning mentality' that
goes along with using the piano would have receded in his mind
as he got older.

I've always thought that the first movement of the 10th would
sound great in a jazz arrangement, and began working on one
many years ago. I gave the Adagio melody to a tenor sax with
piano playing the rich chords, and bass and drums (with brushes).
I'll see if I can find it, finish it, and put in online.

I was quite surprised last year to find out that Uri Caine released
a CD of Mahler-based jazz. (I've never heard it.)

-monz
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/homepage.html

--- In tuning@egroups.com, " Monz" <MONZ@J...> wrote:
> http://www.egroups.com/message/tuning/12681
>
> ... Just yesterday I was working
> on retuning the opening chord to my 'movie opening'

OOPS! The link is wrong. It should be:
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/worklist/triplecn.mid

(typing too fast to get my time in at the library...)
Well, I have to sign off for today...

-monz
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/homepage.html