Re: [tuning] Re: at the edge of the art of space

Joseph Pehrson wrote,

> But, might one also say that with the knowledge of an "open" or
irregular system, the same kind of results could pertain?? In other
words, REGARDLESS of the tuning materials, a talented and perceptive
individual is going to come up with some good music (??)

Sure, absolutely. But I'm really, however ineptly, trying to get at
something much more specific here. I can see it, and I can hear it,
but I'm no doubt having a difficult time explaining it very well...
and unfortunately I can't really say much more than what I've already
said. Sorry. Hopefully I'll be able to articulate this better at some
point.

ds

--- In tuning@egroups.com, "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:

http://www.egroups.com/message/tuning/12396

> Sure, absolutely. But I'm really, however ineptly, trying to get at
> something much more specific here. I can see it, and I can hear it,
> but I'm no doubt having a difficult time explaining it very well...
> and unfortunately I can't really say much more than what I've
>already said. Sorry. Hopefully I'll be able to articulate this
better at some point.

Hmmm. Well, then it's obviously something akin to "modulation" that
is sending you over the edge of the Raumkunst??
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Joseph Pehrson

Joseph Pehrson wrote,

> Hmmm. Well, then it's obviously something akin to "modulation" that
is sending you over the edge of the Raumkunst??

Yes.

ds

Joe Monzo wrote,

> I think I see at least a little of what you're 'trying to get at
here'. Often it seems that Tatum is creating a wash of sound that is
trying to transcend 12-tET altogether.

Again my apologies for inarticulate musings, but I'm really seeing
this as something quite different than "transcending" -- in fact,
almost the opposite of it! Maximizing would be much closer... as in
"maximizing" the possibilities of the tuning by confidently walking a
sublime understanding of its proportions and symmetries right into the
shadowy edges of the prevailing harmonic contexts of the day (for his
idiom and its repertoire).

ds

P.S. -- I've always been a big Hendrix fan as well...