Re: [tuning] Re: my 'Solar System' piece (was: 'music of the spheres')

> *Here's* my 'Solar System' piece (for real this time!):

http://www.egroups.com/files/tuning/monz/solarsystem/Solar.mid

Hey Joe,

I still just get a Windows Media Player "cannot open" error message
with this address as well... anyone else having this problem?

BTW, it's real nice to see a big ol' up-all-night Monz post again...
however, should I somehow find myself bathed in the subliminal cosmic
hum of a major chord, I'm afraid me and my bag of atoms are going to
have to seek asylum in some alternate reality!

Dan

Monz wrote,

> Hmmm... I clicked on the link as you quoted it in your post, Dan,
and it worked fine... don't know what the problem is.

Yeah, strange, for some reason it works now for me as well.

> I'm *so* glad to hear that!

Yeah, I was beginning to think that you'd perhaps been softened up
some, or settled into some newfound domesticity out in your new sunny
California haunts...

> Well, first of all, please note that the 9-note chord, of which I'm
only really hearing 6 notes anyway (Venus thru Uranus) sounds a lot
like a major chord,

Well now that I've heard it, at least it's a pretty stout "major
chord"...

> And also remember that it wasn't *me* who put the planets into these
orbits!

Well I may indeed be a "fan" -- BUT NOT THAT BIG OF A FAN! (please
note, least I be misunderstood, that if I didn't despise emoticons so
much, I'd have some "this is tongue-in-cheek" thingy here...)

> I'm just analyzing the data that's out there.

"the truth is out there"

(spooky) Stearns

Monz!
It is interesting that Kepler (who is the one we look upon as the most vocal and precise
of those talking about the music of the spheres) rejected the idea of the orbital duration as
being expressible in whole number ratios and went to the distance as the clue. As the orbits
are ellipses, He considered the planets moving in and out of these relation ships , like
suspensions found in music.

Monz wrote:

> > [Kraig Grady, o
> > http://www.egroups.com/message/tuning/11929
> >
> > Monz and Paul!
> >
> > I find this type of logic rather so all inclusive as to
> > not be meaningful. It is too easy to run down simple ratios
> > until you fine one that worked. In fact if you took random
> > numbers the results would be the same. As I stated before,
> > the relationships between the planets are not simple ratios.
> > If they were, a resonance would build up and destroy the orbit.
> > golden/noble relationships seem to be a necessity.
> > The problem will be as there are a infinite of whole number
> > relationships, there are a infinite series of noble numbers;
> > both can express the continuum.
>
> I'm not going to argue against the possibility of describing
> the relationships between the planetary orbital periods in myriad
> different ways other than low-integer ratios. My piece and the
> post that explained it was simply an excercise exploring the
> ancient concept of 'music of the spheres', which was based
> primarily on low-integer ratios.
>
> But you have to be careful to make sure that your ideas are
> reconciled with the physical facts. Astronomers are certain
> that the Venus/Earth 13:8 ratio (actually, they seem to recognize
> it more as 8:5, but 13:8 is much more precise), the Jupiter/Saturn
> 5:2, and especially the Neptune/Pluto 3:2 ratio exist, and in
> fact the word that they use to describe these synchronicities
> is precisely the one you see as a problem: resonance.
>
> If the resonance were manifest thru the *overall* relationships
> of all 9 planets, then yes, perhaps it would destroy the orbits.
> But what I examined in detail in my post was the individual
> ratios between any two planets. There *are* resonances in some
> of these cases, and they bring no apparent harm to the planets
> involved; I believe that the effect is small and subtle, probably
> similar to the tidal forces exerted by the Moon, but not as strong.
>
> Please note that while I explored many possible rational
> interpretations of these orbits in my post, I did *not* use
> low-integer ratios in my MIDI-file. The sound you are hearing
> is a very precise mapping of the actual orbital frequency ratios,
> which are *not* (except for the 3 cases noted above) very close
> to low-integer ratios. It sounds like what it is:
>
> http://www.egroups.com/files/tuning/monz/solarsystem/Solar.mid
>
>
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
www.anaphoria.com

Monz!
I forgot to mentioned , I enjoyed the chord.

Monz wrote:

> > [Kraig Grady, or was it Banaphshu?]
> > http://www.egroups.com/message/tuning/11929
> >

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
www.anaphoria.com