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[tuning] RIP: Pythagorus

🔗Troubledoor <troubledoor@earthlink.net>

8/25/2000 1:32:49 PM

http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/lsd/chap1.html

I got this microtonal theory based on pi (circles) from Charles Lucy. That was my whole secret
about my insights on Pythagorus and why there is a tradition that insists on 72 tones per
octave. These people were basing their musical calculations on a circle. Since the article
below has already done this for the Pi, I see no reason why it should be a secret anymore. I
suspect the Pi method is infinitely more useful. Yet the Pythagoreans will always argue that
72 is a geometric system and is easier held by the memory so it will always exist. Pi can be
forgotten through disuse. Geometry is always sacred-geometry and its axioms are as unavoidable
as realizing that God smokes pot. And geometry has synergetic effects to psychoactive drugs.
And that's what matters about life; getting stoned on useless ideas about the planets so that
other people can get tempted to listen to free jazz, 12tone compositions, and hopefully now,
microtonal compositions. You can worship The Uncreated Perfect One by praising His creation,
too (in this case, it's music).

So now after all this Bode's Law and 72 tone junk, I'm gonna go tune my sampler to 53 tones per
octave.

Beware of the 72-toners. When the microtonal revolution kicks in with the increasing
popularity of the symmetric keyboard, the 72-tones will be those hippies with the flowers and
acoustic sitars singing about devolution (back into the music of the spheres) and world Pi.

🔗alfredo giusto <agiusto@bway.net>

8/25/2000 5:08:34 PM

Troubledoor,

You know, it really doesn't matter what you compose with 72,53,31,19,12,5, equal, unequal, unequal
temperaments or non pitch instruments for that matter. A good composer is a good composer no
matter what he uses. Soul is soul and no system or notes will provide that for you. So, denouncing
72 and the people who use it should not even be an issue, even if you don't prefer it or like it.
That's being shortsighted. Each system has it pluses and minuses and either you choose one that
works for you, both internally and externally, or you choose them all. Remember, "It don't mean a
thing......."

Al Giusto

Troubledoor wrote:

> http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/lsd/chap1.html
>
> I got this microtonal theory based on pi (circles) from Charles Lucy. That was my whole secret
> about my insights on Pythagorus and why there is a tradition that insists on 72 tones per
> octave. These people were basing their musical calculations on a circle. Since the article
> below has already done this for the Pi, I see no reason why it should be a secret anymore. I
> suspect the Pi method is infinitely more useful. Yet the Pythagoreans will always argue that
> 72 is a geometric system and is easier held by the memory so it will always exist. Pi can be
> forgotten through disuse. Geometry is always sacred-geometry and its axioms are as unavoidable
> as realizing that God smokes pot. And geometry has synergetic effects to psychoactive drugs.
> And that's what matters about life; getting stoned on useless ideas about the planets so that
> other people can get tempted to listen to free jazz, 12tone compositions, and hopefully now,
> microtonal compositions. You can worship The Uncreated Perfect One by praising His creation,
> too (in this case, it's music).
>
> So now after all this Bode's Law and 72 tone junk, I'm gonna go tune my sampler to 53 tones per
> octave.
>
> Beware of the 72-toners. When the microtonal revolution kicks in with the increasing
> popularity of the symmetric keyboard, the 72-tones will be those hippies with the flowers and
> acoustic sitars singing about devolution (back into the music of the spheres) and world Pi.
>
>
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