Re: [tuning] Jazz and microtones

Does anybody have information on Joe Manieri and his 72tone tuning?
I also read that he has made a microtonal keyboard.
Thanks
Alex

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--- In tuning@egroups.com, "Alexandros Papadopoulos" <alexmoog@h...>
wrote:
>
> Does anybody have information on Joe Manieri and his 72tone tuning?
> I also read that he has made a microtonal keyboard.

It's actually Joe Maneri. Joe has written a book, "Preliminary
Studies
in the Virtual Pitch Continuum" which contains exercises for playing/
singing the various 72-tET intervals. He makes no attempt to classify
them by consonance -- to him, Schoenberg emancipated the dissonances,
and Maneri is just emancipating more of them. Joe teaches 72-tET ear-
training at New England Conservatory using a 72-tET keyboard that he
obtained (but didn't make). It has a very annoying timbre but has
served to train many Boston microtonal musicians. Joe's violininst
son
Mat and keyboardist Steve Lantner made a CD (which I just got a copy
of) in which Steve uses 36-tET, a subset of 72-tET, and the playing
is
primarily in an atonal language. Joe himself has several CDs
available, though I don't own any of them. I met Joe at a Boston
Microtonal Society meeting and he is a very warm fellow. I've heard
him play the clarinet and he seems less concerned with finding any
nice scales within 72-tET than in bringing the maximum amount of
color
into his jazzy improvisations.

By contrast, Joe's friend, Boston composer Ezra Sims, uses 72-tET for
its excellent approximations to harmonic intervals (it makes no
errors
greater than 4 cents in the 11-odd-limit, and is consistent though
the
17-odd-limit, though Sims tries to imply much higher harmonics
through
his 72-tone notation).

P.S. Steve Lantner is an incredible jazz keyboardist as well as an
incredible Maneri-microtonal modern-classical keyboardist. I'll have
to ask him on Thursday (when his jazz/funk band plays) if he's ever
done anything he'd consider "microtonal jazz". By the way, I noticed
that my 22-tET piece "TIBIA" was classified as "General Jazz" by
mp3.com. I don't know . . . maaaaaybe . . . who comes up with these
classifications?

Alex,

my nameis al giusto. I was a student of joe's. To get his book "prelimanary studies in the
virtual pitch continuum" contact "the boston microtonal society, 7 maple lane, framingham, ma
01701'. write the letter to joe and tell him i referred you. it's a good book to learn the
72et with simple excercises to hear the intervals. It's set up like a shoenberg method with
the notes set up in different kind of rows to compose from. you don't have to follow that
compositionally. but it's a good learning process. You can also use ezra simm's method, the
originater of the 72 et system, which is closer to just but not exact. Once you get the book,
i could send you ezra's formation of the19 note scale in 72et.

As for the keyboard, it's a big box with round buttons. It's much better for learning than
playing pieces upon. But things might have changed, so ask.

I hope this helps and if you want, you can always contact me off list.

al giusto

Alexandros Papadopoulos wrote:

> Does anybody have information on Joe Manieri and his 72tone tuning?
> I also read that he has made a microtonal keyboard.
> Thanks
> Alex
>
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