Proposed new microtuning method using RPNs

Cross-posted from facebook XA group:

Your feedback is requested on a proposed new method of microtuning via midi
using RPNs. An unofficial alternative to MTS sysexes, easier to understand and
hopefully more likely to be utilized by softsynth developers. Please share this
with anyone that writes tuning software or softsynths. If this catches on, it
could make life much easier for us!

HTTP://XENHARMONIC.WIKISPACES.COM/TUNING+RPNS
[HTTP://XENHARMONIC.WIKISPACES.COM/TUNING+RPNS]

ORIGINAL XA THREAD DISCUSSING THIS HERE:

HTTPS://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/GROUPS/XENHARMONIC2/PERMALINK/621829327837373/
[HTTPS://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/GROUPS/XENHARMONIC2/PERMALINK/621829327837373/]

Hi Kite, a few things:

First, out of relevance, I just posted a "big picture" view of MTS at
the "Make Micro Tools" Google group, which may be defunct at this
point. You can see that post here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microtools/GTehT9q3rOY

My analysis, after looking pretty carefully at the spec, is that there
are only two messages that are of any real importance for tuning, and
those are the realtime and non-realtime single note changes. All the
rest of it - tuning dump requests, tuning bank/program select,
scale/octave note changes, etc, aren't really all that important.

Second, I think the sort of thing you're describing here would
probably go under the purview of NRPN's rather than RPN's, right?

Finally, of the objections you list for MTS, the ones that seem the
most salient to me are the ones involving the difficulties in
implementing SysEx. Why don't we just make two NRPN's which are
exactly the same as the MTS single-note realtime and non-realtime
changes, except that the SysEx header is replaced by an NRPN header
instead? That seems like it might be simplest.

There was a thread apparently dealing with this, and I completely
missed it, which is a shame as I've been spending the last week
thinking about this exact problem myself, going through the nuts and
bolts of MTS and etc.

Mike

On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:24 PM, <kiteg@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Cross-posted from facebook XA group:
>
> Your feedback is requested on a proposed new method of microtuning via midi using RPNs. An unofficial alternative to MTS sysexes, easier to understand and hopefully more likely to be utilized by softsynth developers. Please share this with anyone that writes tuning software or softsynths. If this catches on, it could make life much easier for us!
>
>
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Tuning+RPNs
>
> Original XA thread discussing this here:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/xenharmonic2/permalink/621829327837373/
>
>

OK, it looks like everyone's talking about this on XA, and this group
is as dead as usual, so I'm going to just cross-post this there and
drop the discussion here...
Mike

On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> Hi Kite, a few things:
>
> First, out of relevance, I just posted a "big picture" view of MTS at
> the "Make Micro Tools" Google group, which may be defunct at this
> point. You can see that post here:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microtools/GTehT9q3rOY
>
> My analysis, after looking pretty carefully at the spec, is that there
> are only two messages that are of any real importance for tuning, and
> those are the realtime and non-realtime single note changes. All the
> rest of it - tuning dump requests, tuning bank/program select,
> scale/octave note changes, etc, aren't really all that important.
>
> Second, I think the sort of thing you're describing here would
> probably go under the purview of NRPN's rather than RPN's, right?
>
> Finally, of the objections you list for MTS, the ones that seem the
> most salient to me are the ones involving the difficulties in
> implementing SysEx. Why don't we just make two NRPN's which are
> exactly the same as the MTS single-note realtime and non-realtime
> changes, except that the SysEx header is replaced by an NRPN header
> instead? That seems like it might be simplest.
>
> There was a thread apparently dealing with this, and I completely
> missed it, which is a shame as I've been spending the last week
> thinking about this exact problem myself, going through the nuts and
> bolts of MTS and etc.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:24 PM, <kiteg@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Cross-posted from facebook XA group:
>>
>> Your feedback is requested on a proposed new method of microtuning via midi using RPNs. An unofficial alternative to MTS sysexes, easier to understand and hopefully more likely to be utilized by softsynth developers. Please share this with anyone that writes tuning software or softsynths. If this catches on, it could make life much easier for us!
>>
>>
>> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Tuning+RPNs
>>
>> Original XA thread discussing this here:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/xenharmonic2/permalink/621829327837373/
>>
>>