Group archives?...

Hello everyone, I just re-discovered this list, which I'm fairly certain I was subscribed to back around 1993-1994 when I was an undergraduate at UC Berkeley and doing a project on automated just intonation (at least, I imagine it's fair to say I wasn't on some *other* alternate tunings email list back then).

I'm tickled to see the list is still around -- makes me curious if anyone still has archives of the list pre-dating the archived messages available here on Yahoo?

Regards,
Steven Collins

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "stevie_fromwaukegan" <steven.collins@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, I just re-discovered this list, which I'm fairly
> certain I was subscribed to back around 1993-1994 when I was an
> undergraduate at UC Berkeley and doing a project on automated just
> intonation (at least, I imagine it's fair to say I wasn't on some
> *other* alternate tunings email list back then).
>
> I'm tickled to see the list is still around -- makes me curious
> if anyone still has archives of the list pre-dating the archived
> messages available here on Yahoo?
>
> Regards,
> Steven Collins

Not really, that I know of.
I have messages going back a little more than a year before
Yahoo picks up. If you want them let me know.
If you find anything earlier, also please let me know.

-Carl

Thanks to Robert Walker, archives back to 1995 are now
available!

http://robertinventor.com/mills_txt/

I don't know if they're complete, and they're a little
hard to access with a link to each message.

Robert, are you around? Could you make a zip archive of
these?

-Carl

"stevie_fromwaukegan" <steven.collins@> wrote:

>> Hello everyone, I just re-discovered this list, which I'm fairly
>> certain I was subscribed to back around 1993-1994 when I was an
>> undergraduate at UC Berkeley and doing a project on automated
>> just intonation (at least, I imagine it's fair to say I wasn't
>> on some *other* alternate tunings email list back then).
>>
>> I'm tickled to see the list is still around -- makes me curious
>> if anyone still has archives of the list pre-dating the archived
>> messages available here on Yahoo?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven Collins
>
> Not really, that I know of.
> I have messages going back a little more than a year before
> Yahoo picks up. If you want them let me know.
> If you find anything earlier, also please let me know.
>
> -Carl

Hi Carl,

It's at
http://robertinventor.com/mills_txt/mills_txt.zip

I am doing it as an "archive" like archive.org. So that way it can be "opt out" rather than "opt in" as it used to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine#Legal_status

I don't know what the mills.txt robots.txt file was like back in the 1990s but since archive.org archived them then presumably it didn't exclude the messages from archiving.

So, as an archive, if anyone wants their messages removed I will remove them. If mills ask me to remove the whole thing I'll do that too. I can't remember now but don't think there was anyone who objected to their posts being included. After all most are techy discussions about tunings. But do let me know if anyone here does! Or remind me if I forgot.

Sorry the first 2000 messages are missing.

Also originally the "opt in" version I did could be sorted by subject and by author. So was much easier to read. Seems that I had to take it down way back when a few MBs was an issue, when for some reason I could no longer host it at the site where it was. And for some reason never uploaded it again.

I am not sure what happened, thought I had everything backed up but that is from long ago, possibly I just forgot to back this one up??

Anyway, I can't find it and can't find the program I used to make the archive either. It might possibly be still on my old computer but that's in a box somewhere in the attic and probably beneath other boxes, have dozens of boxes up there had a first look but can't find it yet.

I got the original digests from Monz and from Manual. Probably have those here somewhere as well.

Cheers,

Robert

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <carl@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to Robert Walker, archives back to 1995 are now
> available!
>
> http://robertinventor.com/mills_txt/
>
> I don't know if they're complete, and they're a little
> hard to access with a link to each message.
>
> Robert, are you around? Could you make a zip archive of
> these?
>
> -Carl
>
> "stevie_fromwaukegan" <steven.collins@> wrote:
>
> >> Hello everyone, I just re-discovered this list, which I'm fairly
> >> certain I was subscribed to back around 1993-1994 when I was an
> >> undergraduate at UC Berkeley and doing a project on automated
> >> just intonation (at least, I imagine it's fair to say I wasn't
> >> on some *other* alternate tunings email list back then).
> >>
> >> I'm tickled to see the list is still around -- makes me curious
> >> if anyone still has archives of the list pre-dating the archived
> >> messages available here on Yahoo?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Steven Collins
> >
> > Not really, that I know of.
> > I have messages going back a little more than a year before
> > Yahoo picks up. If you want them let me know.
> > If you find anything earlier, also please let me know.
> >
> > -Carl
>

I second the call for a zip. Then I could browse them when I don't have net
access.

If its not too much trouble, that is.

You've done something fantastic by making these available in any fashion!

Chris

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thanks to Robert Walker, archives back to 1995 are now
> available!
>
> http://robertinventor.com/mills_txt/
>
> I don't know if they're complete, and they're a little
> hard to access with a link to each message.
>
> Robert, are you around? Could you make a zip archive of
> these?
>
> -Carl
>
>
> "stevie_fromwaukegan" <steven.collins@> wrote:
>
> >> Hello everyone, I just re-discovered this list, which I'm fairly
> >> certain I was subscribed to back around 1993-1994 when I was an
> >> undergraduate at UC Berkeley and doing a project on automated
> >> just intonation (at least, I imagine it's fair to say I wasn't
> >> on some *other* alternate tunings email list back then).
> >>
> >> I'm tickled to see the list is still around -- makes me curious
> >> if anyone still has archives of the list pre-dating the archived
> >> messages available here on Yahoo?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Steven Collins
> >
> > Not really, that I know of.
> > I have messages going back a little more than a year before
> > Yahoo picks up. If you want them let me know.
> > If you find anything earlier, also please let me know.
> >
> > -Carl
>
>
>

Thanks Robert, this is excellent. -Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "robert_inventor5" <robertwalker@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carl,
>
> It's at
> http://robertinventor.com/mills_txt/mills_txt.zip
>
> I am doing it as an "archive" like archive.org. So that way it can be "opt out" rather than "opt in" as it used to be.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine#Legal_status
>
> I don't know what the mills.txt robots.txt file was like back in the 1990s but since archive.org archived them then presumably it didn't exclude the messages from archiving.
>
> So, as an archive, if anyone wants their messages removed I will remove them. If mills ask me to remove the whole thing I'll do that too. I can't remember now but don't think there was anyone who objected to their posts being included. After all most are techy discussions about tunings. But do let me know if anyone here does! Or remind me if I forgot.
>
> Sorry the first 2000 messages are missing.
>
> Also originally the "opt in" version I did could be sorted by subject and by author. So was much easier to read. Seems that I had to take it down way back when a few MBs was an issue, when for some reason I could no longer host it at the site where it was. And for some reason never uploaded it again.
>
> I am not sure what happened, thought I had everything backed up but that is from long ago, possibly I just forgot to back this one up??
>
> Anyway, I can't find it and can't find the program I used to make the archive either. It might possibly be still on my old computer but that's in a box somewhere in the attic and probably beneath other boxes, have dozens of boxes up there had a first look but can't find it yet.
>
> I got the original digests from Monz and from Manual. Probably have those here somewhere as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robert
>