Re: Chord progression program (scale independent within subsets of E

I agree with you Keenan here.
One has only to compare the vocal transcriptions of Harry Partch to those of Steve Reichs and that will dispel any idea that the diatonic has much to do with speech.
It was the complete lack of the even the chromatic scale that forced Partch to work with different tunings in the first place. forget what that Talking Heads guy say which I guess might the source.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tuning%40yahoogroups.com>, RR <djtrancendance@
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> � I agree on singing though...and studies have shown even our basic diatonic system and many melodies basically rip off vocal inflections and pitches in everyday speech.� It's as if the Lord himself created the diatonic scale (at least, for Western speech)...through it would be interesting to see� if people in the Middle East actually use vocal intonations mirroring the Rast scale or if other animals use different systems, for example.

What studies are you talking about? I'd be very interested in any that conclude speech intonation has anything to do with the diatoni
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Don't know "talking heads" but here's a paper:
http://asadl.org/jasa/resource/1/jasman/v119/i5/p3034_s1?view=fulltext
(One other interesting thing, tangential, are whistled languages which directly take pitches for vowels)

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, kraiggrady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with you Keenan here.
> One has only to compare the vocal transcriptions of Harry Partch to
> those of Steve Reichs and that will dispel any idea that the diatonic
> has much to do with speech.
> It was the complete lack of the even the chromatic scale that forced
> Partch to work with different tunings in the first place. forget what
> that Talking Heads guy say which I guess might the source.
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tuning%40yahoogroups.com>, RR
> <djtrancendance@
> ...> wrote:
> > Â I agree on singing though...and studies have shown even our basic
> diatonic system and many melodies basically rip off vocal inflections
> and pitches in everyday speech. It's as if the Lord himself created
> the diatonic scale (at least, for Western speech)...through it would be
> interesting to see if people in the Middle East actually use vocal
> intonations mirroring the Rast scale or if other animals use different
> systems, for example.
>
> What studies are you talking about? I'd be very interested in any that
> conclude speech intonation has anything to do with the diatoni
> --
> signature file
>
> /^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
>
> _'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
>
> ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
>
> a momentary antenna as i turn to water
> this evaporates - an island once again
>

Thank you!~ i will hunt the paper down when i am at uni next. We find tonal languages around the globe which vary in relationship to each other, but always a fascinating subject. There are Ballophones in Central Africa that differ in pitch from the octaves above. This is done as they speak about different subjects in different ranges so likewise do the same in their musical scale. An area of needed research.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "proleax" <ringer_rosy@...> wrote:
>
> Don't know "talking heads" but here's a paper:
> http://asadl.org/jasa/resource/1/jasman/v119/i5/p3034_s1?view=fulltext
> (One other interesting thing, tangential, are whistled languages which directly take pitches for vowels)
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, kraiggrady <kraiggrady@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with you Keenan here.
> > One has only to compare the vocal transcriptions of Harry Partch to
> > those of Steve Reichs and that will dispel any idea that the diatonic
> > has much to do with speech.
> > It was the complete lack of the even the chromatic scale that forced
> > Partch to work with different tunings in the first place. forget what
> > that Talking Heads guy say which I guess might the source.
> >
> > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tuning%40yahoogroups.com>, RR
> > <djtrancendance@
> > ...> wrote:
> > > Â I agree on singing though...and studies have shown even our basic
> > diatonic system and many melodies basically rip off vocal inflections
> > and pitches in everyday speech. It's as if the Lord himself created
> > the diatonic scale (at least, for Western speech)...through it would be
> > interesting to see if people in the Middle East actually use vocal
> > intonations mirroring the Rast scale or if other animals use different
> > systems, for example.
> >
> > What studies are you talking about? I'd be very interested in any that
> > conclude speech intonation has anything to do with the diatoni
> > --
> > signature file
> >
> > /^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
> > Mesotonal Music from:
> > _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> > North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
> >
> > _'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> > Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
> >
> > ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
> >
> > a momentary antenna as i turn to water
> > this evaporates - an island once again
> >
>