Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Gesualdo and notes moving by diesis

I want to check out some mind-expanding Gesualdo compositions that
feature "extended meantone" chord progressions, and have notes moving
by diesis.

Which are the compositions I need to be listening to?

-Mike

🔗lobawad <lobawad@...>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> I want to check out some mind-expanding Gesualdo compositions that
> feature "extended meantone" chord progressions, and have notes moving
> by diesis.
>
> Which are the compositions I need to be listening to?
>
> -Mike

The right performance might be just as important- the record I had way back when sucked, as did other recordings I heard, no sense of the microtonality involved at all. Early music scholarship has come a long way since those days, though, I bet. One group that pays attention to intonation is Consorte of Musicke... .let's see,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLknOfKZQg

I'd also love to hear some killer precise renditions, let us know if you find them.

🔗lobawad <lobawad@...>

Oh- just remembered, I did hear a killer performance on some internet streaming thing, a few years ago. Can't remember the piece, the group, or the show! But, slick renditions, where you can here the microtonal movements clearly, do exist.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "lobawad" <lobawad@...> wrote:
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>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@> wrote:
> >
> > I want to check out some mind-expanding Gesualdo compositions that
> > feature "extended meantone" chord progressions, and have notes moving
> > by diesis.
> >
> > Which are the compositions I need to be listening to?
> >
> > -Mike
>
> The right performance might be just as important- the record I had way back when sucked, as did other recordings I heard, no sense of the microtonality involved at all. Early music scholarship has come a long way since those days, though, I bet. One group that pays attention to intonation is Consorte of Musicke... .let's see,
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLknOfKZQg
>
> I'd also love to hear some killer precise renditions, let us know if you find them.
>

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:44 PM, lobawad <lobawad@...> wrote:
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> The right performance might be just as important- the record I had way
> back when sucked, as did other recordings I heard, no sense of the
> microtonality involved at all. Early music scholarship has come a long way
> since those days, though, I bet. One group that pays attention to intonation
> is Consorte of Musicke... .let's see,
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLknOfKZQg
>
> I'd also love to hear some killer precise renditions, let us know if you
> find them.

Thanks - will check this out soon.

By the way, has anyone devoted a decent amount of attention to
performing Gesualdo in 19-EDO? I know that technically he was thinking
in extended meantone (I've actually heard that composers of the time
thought in meantone[31]). But, the notion of hearing Gesualdo
performed in 19-EDO, where the diesis and the chromatic semitone are
the same time, just seems like a fantastic idea.

-Mike

🔗Keenan Pepper <keenanpepper@...>

What, nobody's linked to the epic Margo Schulter post yet?

/tuning/topicId_19306.html#19306

Keenan

P.S. No idea how faithful this performance is (or if the piece even contains dieses?) but I really like the sound of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_q3EJNUKis

🔗bigAndrewM <bigandrewm@...>

I don't know about specific compositions, but just in terms of good performances, the Hilliard Ensemble is one of my favorite choral groups.

Andrew

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

Someone might know if any of these recordings qualify.

http://classical-music-online.net/en/composer/Gesualdo/2392

disclaimer - this is a site hosted in Russia and I doubt they are complying
with US copyright law.
You are responsible for knowing if it is legally safe to listen, let alone
download, from this site in your country.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:

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>
> I want to check out some mind-expanding Gesualdo compositions that
> feature "extended meantone" chord progressions, and have notes moving
> by diesis.
>
> Which are the compositions I need to be listening to?
>
> -Mike
>
>

🔗Brofessor <kraiggrady@...>

Out of the the six recordings i have. This is the one i enjoy the most.
Gesualdo. Sabbato Sancto. Philippe Herreweghe. Harmonia Mundi hmc 901320.

What i most enjoy about his music is that it goes through all the emotions...... sometimes all of them in a single phrase~

🔗clamengh <clamengh@...>

I could give it a try :-)
Claudi

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> By the way, has anyone devoted a decent amount of attention to
> performing Gesualdo in 19-EDO? I know that technically he was thinking
> in extended meantone (I've actually heard that composers of the time
> thought in meantone[31]). But, the notion of hearing Gesualdo
> performed in 19-EDO, where the diesis and the chromatic semitone are
> the same time, just seems like a fantastic idea.
>
> -Mike
>

🔗Vaughan McAlley <ockegheim@...>

On 26 March 2012 03:31, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
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>
>
> I want to check out some mind-expanding Gesualdo compositions that
> feature "extended meantone" chord progressions, and have notes moving
> by diesis.
>
> Which are the compositions I need to be listening to?
>
> -Mike

I’ve added a recording and score of a couple of madrigals I sang last
year with a quintet:

/tuning/files/Vaughan%20McAlley/

The performance is not perfect, but the tuning is pretty good for the
most part I think.

Next week we’re singing a piece called Tribulationem et dolorem for
Holy Week. At one point it has the following chords in quick
succession (within 5 bars):

Cadence on to D major
B major
B minor
G minor
E flat major
C minor
C major

The D sharp and E flat occur within four beats of each other, for a
proper diesis.

Vaughan

PS I’m looking forward to reading the Schulter!

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Vaughan McAlley <ockegheim@...> wrote:
>
> I've added a recording and score of a couple of madrigals I sang
> last year with a quintet:
> /tuning/files/Vaughan%20McAlley/

Sounds really good - thanks for sharing! What's the
name of your quintet / where are you located?

> The performance is not perfect, but the tuning is pretty good
> for the most part I think.

The intonation is better than many pro recordings I've heard.
Super-difficult pieces. Too bad about the clipping.

> Next week we're singing a piece called Tribulationem et dolorem
> for Holy Week. At one point it has the following chords in quick
> succession (within 5 bars):
> Cadence on to D major
> B major
> B minor
> G minor
> E flat major
> C minor
> C major
> The D sharp and E flat occur within four beats of each other, for
> a proper diesis.

Let us know how it goes!

-Carl