Psychoacoustic conditioning and leading a normal life

And for the record, I don't even know if I agree with this logic in a
limited psychoacoustic sense

> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:
> Actually it's not. And it can't be conditioned, at least
> not by any means anyone can do while leading a normal life.

When I was at UM, at the peak of my musical involvement, I probably
spent 6-7 hours a day playing, listening to, or otherwise completely
immersed in music. I'd typically do some combination of the following:
practice for 1-2 hours a day, have a 1 hour jazz lesson, have a 1 hour
classical lesson, have one of three 1-hour small group ensembles, jam
for an hour or two, go to a mandatory performance of some other
ensemble, play a gig. In general, aside from my other engineering
classes, and homework, and sometimes this list, my free time was spent
jamming with friends. That's a little under 1/2 of my waking hours
being spent doing nothing but bombarding my ears with auditory stimuli
far outside the norm, consistently, over the course of many years.
This is pretty typical for a music student, and in my case even less
than the actual majors because I had engineering stuff to take care of
too.

In short, musicians don't lead normal lives. As a result of this
lifestyle, their auditory systems adapt. This is well documented
http://www.soc.northwestern.edu/brainvolts/documents/KrausChandrasekeran_NRN10.pdf

and I don't see any reason why microtonal musical training wouldn't do
the same thing, or have its own set of corresponding adaptations
beyond what's reflected in the above. In fact, I'd expect that to be
the case. What I know is that after a year of being similarly fanatic
about 15, 16, and 22-EDO, I've noticed perceptual changes which come
and go depending on how much time I spend immersed in a certain
tuning, and this would be consistent with that.

-Mike

I concur with Mike's experiences as a music major and as a xenharmonist
composer / performer.
I don't hear things nearly the same way I did in 2008 which is when I
started to heavily become xen.

And the same thing happened when I transitioned from listening to only rock
music to encompassing all music, especially classical, as a music major.

Chris

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:

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> And for the record, I don't even know if I agree with this logic in a
> limited psychoacoustic sense
>
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:
> > Actually it's not. And it can't be conditioned, at least
> > not by any means anyone can do while leading a normal life.
>
>
> In short, musicians don't lead normal lives. As a result of this
> lifestyle, their auditory systems adapt. This is well documented
>
> http://www.soc.northwestern.edu/brainvolts/documents/KrausChandrasekeran_NRN10.pdf
>
> and I don't see any reason why microtonal musical training wouldn't do
> the same thing, or have its own set of corresponding adaptations
> beyond what's reflected in the above. In fact, I'd expect that to be
> the case. What I know is that after a year of being similarly fanatic
> about 15, 16, and 22-EDO, I've noticed perceptual changes which come
> and go depending on how much time I spend immersed in a certain
> tuning, and this would be consistent with that.
>
> -Mike
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