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JI

🔗Steven Taylor <kung.funk@xxxxxx.xxxx>

2/25/1999 11:25:05 AM

Ok, so ive obviously discovered the 'frequently posted newbie' question on this
list...

In that case can anyone refer me to a good reference source for learning about
JI and its application? To be honest im after an idiots guide.

Im influenced by the music of Ryoji Ikeda, Terry Riley, Tod Dockstader, Gastr
Del Sol etc. and i would like to explore alternate tunings with my Akai sampler
(which i understand isnt very suited to microtonal tunings, but id still like
to have a go).

Steve

> Hi,
>
> Can anybody help me creating Just Intonation patches on my Akai S2000
sampler?
> Ive tried looking at stuff on the net, but to be honest a lot of the
information
> goes straight over my head... What im really after is a list of frequencies
(in
> cents) of how to map a normal 12 tone keyboard to a JI type tuning. I couldnt
find
> an FAQ so i cant apologise for being a newbie!
>
> Steve

🔗Charles Lucy <lucy@harmonics.com>

6/8/2005 4:28:58 AM

I thought JI was already taken for Jihad Islamia (as in bombs in Bali)?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003150.php

On 8 Jun 2005, at 12:02, tuning@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:35:42 +0200
> From: Daniel Wolf <djwolf@snafu.de>
> Subject: Re: JI versus RI
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@s...> wrote:
>
>> Why, the beauty of the acronym of JI would then be transformed into
>>
> RI, which is hardly aesthetical or compelling for me.
>
>>
>>
>
> This is silly. RI is the 2nd degree of Indian solfege, a functional
> term, and JI (shorted "siji", meaning "one" in Javanese) is used by
> Javanese to identify pitch number one, which is not a functional
> identity in the pathet. You're comparing oranges and juice machines.
>
> If, however, you intend to pronounce the "I" in RI or JI as the > dipthong
> [ai], then anyone who has ever tasted Kvass or Roggenbier might well
> have a far different sense of aesthetics.
>
> Daniel Wolf
>

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@superonline.com>

6/8/2005 5:35:49 AM

Oh no, JI means Jemaati'l İslamiyyah, or the Islamic Community. Shucks... now everyone will want to change it on such grounds. Talk about being silly. 9-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Lucy
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 08 Haziran 2005 Çarşamba 14:28
Subject: [tuning] JI

I thought JI was already taken for Jihad Islamia (as in bombs in Bali)?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003150.php

On 8 Jun 2005, at 12:02, tuning@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Message: 18

Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:35:42 +0200

From: Daniel Wolf <djwolf@snafu.de>

Subject: Re: JI versus RI

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@s...> wrote:

Why, the beauty of the acronym of JI would then be transformed into

RI, which is hardly aesthetical or compelling for me.

This is silly. RI is the 2nd degree of Indian solfege, a functional

term, and JI (shorted "siji", meaning "one" in Javanese) is used by

Javanese to identify pitch number one, which is not a functional

identity in the pathet. You're comparing oranges and juice machines.

If, however, you intend to pronounce the "I" in RI or JI as the dipthong

[ai], then anyone who has ever tasted Kvass or Roggenbier might well

have a far different sense of aesthetics.

Daniel Wolf