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Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati

🔗danterosati <danterosati@...>

7/10/2011 5:55:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U

🔗Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>

7/10/2011 8:01:13 PM

hey Dante
pretty cool music,    I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about   (not that it doesn't exist.....)  .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone scales that follow?   maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values that are generated using the same process?    just curious
Tim

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, danterosati <danterosati@gmail.com> wrote:

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Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
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Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U

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🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

7/10/2011 8:17:59 PM

Awesome composition, Dante, really enjoyed it.

-Mike

🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>

7/10/2011 9:02:09 PM

hi Tim, I am not sure I understand your question...what is the "natural
whole tone scale"?

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> hey Dante
> pretty cool music, I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates
> directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about (not
> that it doesn't exist.....) .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone
> scales that follow? maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values
> that are generated using the same process? just curious
> Tim
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/11/11, danterosati <danterosati@...>* wrote:
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> From: danterosati <danterosati@gmail.com>
> Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U
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🔗Petr Parízek <petrparizek2000@...>

7/11/2011 8:44:56 AM

This sounds great. :-)

I suspect the scale is a smaller version of the 12-tone scale called "wilson_helix.scl" in Manuels archive. The scale itself is ingenious, I've used it a couple of times in my compositions as well. It also offers a very "distant sounding" mode of "1 3 2 1 1 3 2" steps.

Petr

🔗Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>

7/11/2011 2:48:20 PM

Hi Dante
 the exact elements of your tuning ...I'm just approaching it on a very simple level and getting the same results . Also, I'm not quite describing it in the same way as is common here on the group. 
 
Hey a small question: in your composition, did you only retune the strings of the guitar or have you also refretted the guitar ?

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...> wrote:

From: Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>
Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:02 AM

hi Tim, I am not sure I understand your question...what is the "natural whole tone scale"?

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

 

hey Dante
pretty cool music,    I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about   (not that it doesn't exist.....)  .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone scales that follow?   maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values that are generated using the same process?    just curious
Tim

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From: danterosati <danterosati@...>
Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
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Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U

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🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>

7/11/2011 3:07:54 PM

the guitar is refretted to play the 8-15 scale. it can be seen in this
video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6ElPRoIZak

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Dante
> the exact elements of your tuning ...I'm just approaching it on a very
> simple level and getting the same results . Also, I'm not quite describing
> it in the same way as is common here on the group.
>
> Hey a small question: in your composition, did you only retune the strings
> of the guitar or have you also refretted the guitar ?
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/11/11, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dante Rosati <danterosati@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante
> Rosati
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:02 AM
>
>
>
>
> hi Tim, I am not sure I understand your question...what is the "natural
> whole tone scale"?
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reevest360@...>
> > wrote:
>
> **
>
> hey Dante
> pretty cool music, I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates
> directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about (not
> that it doesn't exist.....) .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone
> scales that follow? maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values
> that are generated using the same process? just curious
> Tim
>
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> From: danterosati <danterosati@...<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=danterosati@...>
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> Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
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🔗Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>

7/11/2011 3:08:45 PM

Dante
I founf No Snow, it answers my question.
 
BTW you sure have taken this beyond esoteric into a very enjoyable music
Thanks
Tim

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

From: Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>
Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:48 PM

Hi Dante
 the exact elements of your tuning ...I'm just approaching it on a very simple level and getting the same results . Also, I'm not quite describing it in the same way as is common here on the group. 
 
Hey a small question: in your composition, did you only retune the strings of the guitar or have you also refretted the guitar ?

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...> wrote:

From: Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>
Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:02 AM

hi Tim, I am not sure I understand your question...what is the "natural whole tone scale"?

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

 

hey Dante
pretty cool music,    I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about   (not that it doesn't exist.....)  .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone scales that follow?   maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values that are generated using the same process?    just curious
Tim

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, danterosati <danterosati@gmail.com> wrote:

From: danterosati <danterosati@...>
Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U

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🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>

7/11/2011 3:13:51 PM

i dont think the 4th octave of the harmonic series is particularly esoteric,
it is actually audible in the sound of strings and its notes can be reached
on overblown brass instruments and in overtone singing. its probably the
most exoteric tuning possible.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dante
> I founf No Snow, it answers my question.
>
> BTW you sure have taken this beyond esoteric into a very enjoyable music
> Thanks
> Tim
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/11/11, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>
>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante
> Rosati
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:48 PM
>
>
>
>
> Hi Dante
> the exact elements of your tuning ...I'm just approaching it on a very
> simple level and getting the same results . Also, I'm not quite describing
> it in the same way as is common here on the group.
>
> Hey a small question: in your composition, did you only retune the strings
> of the guitar or have you also refretted the guitar ?
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/11/11, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante
> Rosati
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:02 AM
>
>
>
> hi Tim, I am not sure I understand your question...what is the "natural
> whole tone scale"?
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reevest360@...>
> > wrote:
>
> **
>
> hey Dante
> pretty cool music, I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates
> directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about (not
> that it doesn't exist.....) .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone
> scales that follow? maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values
> that are generated using the same process? just curious
> Tim
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/11/11, danterosati <danterosati@...<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=danterosati@...>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: danterosati <danterosati@...<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=danterosati@...>
> >
> Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1202.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:55 AM
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U
>
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🔗Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>

7/11/2011 3:27:06 PM

es·o·ter·ic
[es-uh-ter-ik]

–adjective
1.
understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest; recondite: poetry full of esoteric allusions.
2.
belonging to the select few.
3.
private; secret; confidential.
 
>>>let me partially rephrase that..".enjoyable music for all, not just a select few who understand other tunings besides 12tet"
Tim>>>

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...> wrote:

From: Dante Rosati <danterosati@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 10:13 PM

i dont think the 4th octave of the harmonic series is particularly esoteric, it is actually audible in the sound of strings and its notes can be reached on overblown brass instruments and in overtone singing. its probably the most exoteric tuning possible.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

 

Dante
I founf No Snow, it answers my question.
 
BTW you sure have taken this beyond esoteric into a very enjoyable music
Thanks
Tim

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

From: Tim Reeves <reevest360@...>

Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:48 PM

Hi Dante
 the exact elements of your tuning ...I'm just approaching it on a very simple level and getting the same results . Also, I'm not quite describing it in the same way as is common here on the group. 
 
Hey a small question: in your composition, did you only retune the strings of the guitar or have you also refretted the guitar ?

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...> wrote:

From: Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>
Subject: Re: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 4:02 AM

hi Tim, I am not sure I understand your question...what is the "natural whole tone scale"?

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Tim Reeves <reevest360@...> wrote:

 

hey Dante
pretty cool music,    I haven't heard a lot of music by others that relates directly to the natural whole tone scale that I keep talking about   (not that it doesn't exist.....)  .do you also use the half tone and quarter tone scales that follow?   maybe even the eighth tone (and beyond) scale values that are generated using the same process?    just curious
Tim

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, danterosati <danterosati@...> wrote:

From: danterosati <danterosati@...>
Subject: [tuning] Paracelsus for Diatonic Harmonic Guitar by Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwN7qSGz9U

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