Wiki listening list & people pages

I am looking for a single page or web ring that will offer pretty much all
the online resources of the xenharmonic community, whether established or
lay person. I have been using the "Listening List" and "People" pages on the
Xenharmonic Wiki, but I realize that it does not list some of the persons
involved with developing microtonal music (such Mike B, some on Facebook,
etc.). Is it okay to add these persons to the list myself at my own
discretion, or is it preferred to start another list elsewhere? or is there
a more extensive list of links somewhere I've not run across yet?

Dan N

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Nielsen <nielsed@...> wrote:

Is it okay to add these persons to the list myself at my own
> discretion, or is it preferred to start another list elsewhere? or is there
> a more extensive list of links somewhere I've not run across yet?

You should add to the list, especially if you can write something about the person in question in the article linked to their name.

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Daniel Nielsen <nielsed@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for a single page or web ring that will offer pretty much all the online resources of the xenharmonic community, whether established or lay person. I have been using the "Listening List" and "People" pages on the Xenharmonic Wiki, but I realize that it does not list some of the persons involved with developing microtonal music (such Mike B, some on Facebook, etc.). Is it okay to add these persons to the list myself at my own discretion, or is it preferred to start another list elsewhere? or is there a more extensive list of links somewhere I've not run across yet?

The wiki is the closest thing we have. We're a bit disorganized.

How about this: what parts of the theory don't you understand? If you
want to take on a project, why don't we discuss the theory publicly
right here? You can ask whatever you don't understand, and we can
answer and attempt to make it as simple as possible. We can leave out
the finer points of Fokker periodicity blocks and linear algebra and
projective tuning space, and just turn it into what these things
practically mean.

Then we'll can copy and paste it to the wiki, put it in a "Regular
Temperament Theory For Beginners" page, and that'll be that. Since you
guys will surely ask questions at every step of the way, it'll ensure
that we don't leave anything out. But I have no idea what everyone
does and doesn't know, so I don't know where to start.

-Mike

I may not have been too clear, Mike; it sounds like we're talking on two
different topics. I'm putting together a simple webpage and wanted to place
a link to the xenharmonic websites that are out there. Of course, I don't
expect to catch them all; there are local experimental music groups all over
the country, not to mention musical traditions all over the world. It seems
like the Microtonal Listening List (also called the Composers' Websites)
page could be combined with the People page, and, when available, a website
could be listed alongside a person. That way all the names, websites, and
personal descriptions would be in one place, and could be edited in a single
place. A separate listening list page might follow a more chronological
progression of "important" works, e.g. Vincentino->..->Blackwood->...

That said, I sure would like to take you up on your offer to help get us
novices up to speed on this, and definitely don't mind if we continue the
discussion that way! I feel like part of this is my fault; I just haven't
had much time in my schedule to work through some of Gene's ideas,
especially when it comes to pretty much any of the matrix math. When I do
get a little time, I wind up working on some of my own notions and improving
my codebase, and am still short on time for that.

A possible approach for a Tutorial page might be to come up with a really
good example problem, one that requires many typically important descriptive
and operational concepts to work through, like eigenmonzos, etc., but which
is not terribly difficult. It would also be nice if the result produces
something that sounds interesting. As for tuning set theory and monsters
etc, I don't know where to begin on that; it maybe a Tutorial page best left
for another day (or decade).

I'm sure the archives are full of good problems, but I don't know how to
identify them.

Dan N

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Daniel Nielsen <nielsed@...> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for a single page or web ring that will offer pretty much
> all the online resources of the xenharmonic community, whether established
> or lay person. I have been using the "Listening List" and "People" pages on
> the Xenharmonic Wiki, but I realize that it does not list some of the
> persons involved with developing microtonal music (such Mike B, some on
> Facebook, etc.). Is it okay to add these persons to the list myself at my
> own discretion, or is it preferred to start another list elsewhere? or is
> there a more extensive list of links somewhere I've not run across yet?
>
> The wiki is the closest thing we have. We're a bit disorganized.
>
> How about this: what parts of the theory don't you understand? If you
> want to take on a project, why don't we discuss the theory publicly
> right here? You can ask whatever you don't understand, and we can
> answer and attempt to make it as simple as possible. We can leave out
> the finer points of Fokker periodicity blocks and linear algebra and
> projective tuning space, and just turn it into what these things
> practically mean.
>
> Then we'll can copy and paste it to the wiki, put it in a "Regular
> Temperament Theory For Beginners" page, and that'll be that. Since you
> guys will surely ask questions at every step of the way, it'll ensure
> that we don't leave anything out. But I have no idea what everyone
> does and doesn't know, so I don't know where to start.
>
> -Mike
>