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Fwd: Guts of my scheme The minor third note in minor chord is the fifth on the implied fundamental. Correction

🔗Ralph Hill <ASCEND11@...>

6/14/2011 1:27:30 AM

Correction for 10:12:15 minor chord
Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ralph Hill <ascend11@...>
> Date: June 14, 2011 1:15:16 AM PDT
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Guts of my scheme
>
> I tried to spill out as much of the results of my years of work in > sound synthesis, effects of shifts in pitch of different sizes, > etc. I found to my disappointment that chords with notes having > wavelengths integral multiples of an "overfundamental" didn't seem > to have the focussed pschological effect that "otonal" chords had, > so I've left all but the minor chords out because they might turn > off more people than they attracted and seemed to me to warrant > being kept apart from the core system. The simple minor chords could > actually be thought of as having note frequencies multiples of 3, 5, > and 15 (A-flat, C, E-flat a minor chord but with frequencies > integral multiples of

> (((1, 8*1))) = implied; 5, 2*5; 3, 4*3; and 15)

> and they have a powerful psychological effect, so I included them.
>
> Notes with frequencies proportional to 13 - "Saturns" probably > should be in there, but I had difficulty in my own mind getting a > solid feel for their place in chords and harmony, and I've deferred > them to when I could really honestly grapple with them, so others > will need to deal with them I think, as my time and health and > energy are slipping from my hands.
>
> I hope I've contributed something that at least someone will find > of interest and offering at least some item they can "sink their > teeth into".
>
> Best wishes, Ralph David Hill

🔗Mark Rankin <markrankin95511@...>

6/14/2011 12:45:55 PM

Dear Ralph,
 
I've always liked knowing you and following your musical work.  I'm sorry to hear that your "time and health and energy are slipping from your hands".  I hope that what you're refering to is just normal aging or something like it, but I worry that you may be implying something
more dire.  Please fill me in.  If you are ill or injured please let me know - I care about you.
 
-- Sincerely,
 
Mark Rankin   

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Ralph Hill <ASCEND11@...> wrote:

From: Ralph Hill <ASCEND11@...>
Subject: [tuning] Fwd: Guts of my scheme The minor third note in minor chord is the fifth on the implied fundamental. Correction
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 1:27 AM

 

Correction for 10:12:15 minor chord

Begin forwarded message:

From: Ralph Hill <ascend11@...>
Date: June 14, 2011 1:15:16 AM PDT
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Guts of my scheme

I tried to spill out as much of the results of my years of work in sound synthesis, effects of shifts in pitch of different sizes, etc.  I found to my disappointment that chords with notes having wavelengths integral multiples of an "overfundamental" didn't seem to have the focussed pschological effect that "otonal" chords had, so I've left all but the minor chords out because they might turn off more people than they attracted and seemed to me to warrant being kept apart from the core system. The simple minor chords could actually be thought of as having note frequencies multiples of 3, 5, and 15 (A-flat, C, E-flat  a minor chord but with frequencies integral multiples of

(((1, 8*1))) = implied; 5, 2*5; 3, 4*3; and 15)

and they have a powerful psychological effect, so I included them.

Notes with frequencies proportional to 13 - "Saturns" probably should be in there, but I had difficulty in my own mind getting a solid feel for their place in chords and harmony, and I've deferred them to when I could really honestly grapple with them, so others will need to deal with them I think, as my time and health and energy are slipping from my hands.

I hope I've contributed something that at least someone will find of interest and offering at least some item they can "sink their teeth into".

Best wishes,   Ralph David Hill

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

6/14/2011 1:00:08 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mark Rankin <markrankin95511@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ralph,
>  
> I've always liked knowing you and following your musical work.

I wasn't aware of his work, but I should have been. Check this out!

http://sonic-arts.org/hill/10-passages-ji/10-passages-ji.htm

🔗Mark Rankin <markrankin95511@...>

6/14/2011 1:11:53 PM

ASCEND11@...
 
Dear Ralph,
 
I tried to send you an e-mail a few minutes ago but it didn't seem to work right, so I have added the ascend11 at aol dot com and tried again - I hope it works.
 
-- Mark Rankin 

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Mark Rankin <markrankin95511@...> wrote:

From: Mark Rankin <markrankin95511@...>
Subject: Re: [tuning] Fwd: Guts of my scheme The minor third note in minor chord is the fifth on the implied fundamental. Correction
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:45 PM

 

Dear Ralph,
 
I've always liked knowing you and following your musical work.  I'm sorry to hear that your "time and health and energy are slipping from your hands".  I hope that what you're refering to is just normal aging or something like it, but I worry that you may be implying something
more dire.  Please fill me in.  If you are ill or injured please let me know - I care about you.
 
-- Sincerely,
 
Mark Rankin   

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Ralph Hill <ASCEND11@...> wrote:

From: Ralph Hill <ASCEND11@...>
Subject: [tuning] Fwd: Guts of my scheme The minor third note in minor chord is the fifth on the implied fundamental. Correction
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 1:27 AM

 

Correction for 10:12:15 minor chord

Begin forwarded message:

From: Ralph Hill <ascend11@...>
Date: June 14, 2011 1:15:16 AM PDT
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Guts of my scheme

I tried to spill out as much of the results of my years of work in sound synthesis, effects of shifts in pitch of different sizes, etc.  I found to my disappointment that chords with notes having wavelengths integral multiples of an "overfundamental" didn't seem to have the focussed pschological effect that "otonal" chords had, so I've left all but the minor chords out because they might turn off more people than they attracted and seemed to me to warrant being kept apart from the core system. The simple minor chords could actually be thought of as having note frequencies multiples of 3, 5, and 15 (A-flat, C, E-flat  a minor chord but with frequencies integral multiples of

(((1, 8*1))) = implied; 5, 2*5; 3, 4*3; and 15)

and they have a powerful psychological effect, so I included them.

Notes with frequencies proportional to 13 - "Saturns" probably should be in there, but I had difficulty in my own mind getting a solid feel for their place in chords and harmony, and I've deferred them to when I could really honestly grapple with them, so others will need to deal with them I think, as my time and health and energy are slipping from my hands.

I hope I've contributed something that at least someone will find of interest and offering at least some item they can "sink their teeth into".

Best wishes,   Ralph David Hill