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Rules for Diatonics

🔗Mark Gould <mark.gould@argonet.co.uk>

3/29/2002 10:34:26 AM

Well, after all the interesting comments about diatonics, I owe it a small
explanation of how I work.

The rules I put out in my article were 'rules of thumb', that, given the
other ET scales I looked at, produced the diatonics that we know from C19
and C31, and C26. They also gave rise to the 11 tone C20 diatonic, and all
of the others that I have found.

***This does not mean that other scales which can be built from grids or
lattices are not valid as creative source material.***

As for coherency and incoherency, this is my attempt at a rule of thumb to
allow me to detect easily those scales where the number of 'semitone' steps
inside a given scale step is consistent over the scale. To take Balzano's
example of the left-handed scale, p72: "The size 7 scale given previously
[C12: PCs: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7], for example, contains distances of one and two
scalesteps that are smaller in semitones, than distances of three, four and
five scalesteps." And for sake of argument, I choose understand the term
semitone to mean a difference of 1 in PC terms, and so 'generalize' it to
include the same PC difference in all scales of other Cn. Hence my 'rule'
about groups of adjacent PCs.

As I stated in my introduction:

"This paper approaches these and other 'diatonic' scales from the viewpoint
of a composer seeking new materials for creative work, rather than trying
for rigorous mathematical proof."

I do have an awareness of the mathematical basis for tuning theory, but the
scope of my studies was to derive scales that have _musical_ properties that
bore resemblance to the one diatonic scale that (in whatever form) does
exist. Shape and structure guided what I looked for, and in doing so I may
have 'broken' some 'rules'. As for my own 'rules': I am happy break those
too.

Mark

🔗paulerlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

3/29/2002 6:28:38 PM

--- In tuning-math@y..., Mark Gould <mark.gould@a...> wrote:

> As I stated in my introduction:
>
> "This paper approaches these and other 'diatonic' scales from the
viewpoint
> of a composer seeking new materials for creative work, rather than
trying
> for rigorous mathematical proof."
>
> I do have an awareness of the mathematical basis for tuning theory,
but the
> scope of my studies was to derive scales that have _musical_
properties that
> bore resemblance to the one diatonic scale that (in whatever form)
does
> exist. Shape and structure guided what I looked for, and in doing
so I may
> have 'broken' some 'rules'. As for my own 'rules': I am happy break
those
> too.
>
> Mark

make no mistake: i feel exactly the same way you do about this. i
will take a look at your ideas again when i have an opportunity --
meanwhile, i hope you will take a look at my 'gentle introdution to
fokker periodicity blocks' -- talk about 'shape' and 'structure'!