the missing consistencies

ok, i just recently updated the links in my
"consistency" definition
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/dict/consiste.htm

and now i'm getting a "page cannot be found" error
when i try to view them

where are they hiding now?

-monz

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They're not hiding, you mistook the .html extensions
for .txt.

Manuel

> From: <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com>
> To: <tuning-math@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [tuning-math] the missing consistencies
>
>
> They're not hiding, you mistook the .html extensions
> for .txt.

thanks, Manuel, it's fixed now.
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/dict/consiste.htm

paul, you had asked me to change something about my graphics
here and in the "unique" definition ... what was it?

-monz

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--- In tuning-math@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
> > From: <manuel.op.de.coul@e...>
> > To: <tuning-math@y...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [tuning-math] the missing consistencies
> >
> >
> > They're not hiding, you mistook the .html extensions
> > for .txt.
>
>
> thanks, Manuel, it's fixed now.
> http://www.ixpres.com/interval/dict/consiste.htm
>
>
> paul, you had asked me to change something about my graphics
> here and in the "unique" definition ... what was it?

well, before i remind you of that, which data exactly are you
plotting here? i would have expected only odd number limits, since
you're restricing yourself to equal temperaments with an integer
number of notes per octave . . .

> From: paulerlich <paul@stretch-music.com>
> To: <tuning-math@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:53 PM
> Subject: [tuning-math] Re: the missing consistencies
>
>
> > > They're not hiding, you mistook the .html extensions
> > > for .txt.
> >
> >
> > thanks, Manuel, it's fixed now.
> > http://www.ixpres.com/interval/dict/consiste.htm
> >
> >
> > paul, you had asked me to change something about my graphics
> > here and in the "unique" definition ... what was it?
>
> well, before i remind you of that, which data exactly are you
> plotting here? i would have expected only odd number limits, since
> you're restricing yourself to equal temperaments with an integer
> number of notes per octave . . .

hmmm ... i simply copied the data from Manuel's webpages
and pasted it into a spreadsheet, from which i made the graphs.

so i guess those integer-EDOs are merely signposts along
the x-axis. the plots correspond exactly with the data in
the spreadsheet, so the EDOs plotted are not integer divisions.

i admit that these graphs could be improved a lot -- this
was just a very quick-and-dirty deal. i've never really
understood these consistency tables well until now.

-monz

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--- In tuning-math@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:

> hmmm ... i simply copied the data from Manuel's webpages
> and pasted it into a spreadsheet, from which i made the graphs.
>
> so i guess those integer-EDOs are merely signposts along
> the x-axis. the plots correspond exactly with the data in
> the spreadsheet, so the EDOs plotted are not integer divisions.
>
> i admit that these graphs could be improved a lot -- this
> was just a very quick-and-dirty deal. i've never really
> understood these consistency tables well until now.

i don't think you're doing a good job of presenting this data
visually, and it couldn't be much improved in this format. i think it
would be far better to simply plot the odd-limit data for the integer
et case, if you wanted one graph to illustrate 'consistency'. if you
don't know how to read this information from manuel's table, you can
find it on paul hahn's website, for example
http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote/consist3.txt, which gives the
maximum errors within each odd limit (the columns are 3, 5, 7, 9, 11,
etc.) and ceases once inconsistency is reached.

> From: paulerlich <paul@stretch-music.com>
> To: <tuning-math@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:17 PM
> Subject: [tuning-math] Re: the missing consistencies
>
>
> --- In tuning-math@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
>
> > hmmm ... i simply copied the data from Manuel's webpages
> > and pasted it into a spreadsheet, from which i made the graphs.
> >
> > so i guess those integer-EDOs are merely signposts along
> > the x-axis. the plots correspond exactly with the data in
> > the spreadsheet, so the EDOs plotted are not integer divisions.
> >
> > i admit that these graphs could be improved a lot -- this
> > was just a very quick-and-dirty deal. i've never really
> > understood these consistency tables well until now.
>
> i don't think you're doing a good job of presenting this data
> visually, and it couldn't be much improved in this format. i think it
> would be far better to simply plot the odd-limit data for the integer
> et case, if you wanted one graph to illustrate 'consistency'. if you
> don't know how to read this information from manuel's table, you can
> find it on paul hahn's website, for example
> http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote/consist3.txt, which gives the
> maximum errors within each odd limit (the columns are 3, 5, 7, 9, 11,
> etc.) and ceases once inconsistency is reached.

yes, paul, i think you're probably right that that approach
would work (and look) better. i'll check it out ... thanks.

-monz

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