Aaron Hunt

Here's a web bio:

http://www.eiu.edu/~music/faculty/bio_hunt.php

Both microtonal intonation theory and microtonal notation are of great
interest to this group, so I hope we hear more about it.

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith"
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a web bio:
>
> http://www.eiu.edu/~music/faculty/bio_hunt.php
>
> Both microtonal intonation theory and microtonal notation are of great
> interest to this group, so I hope we hear more about it.

This page:

http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/%7Eaahunt/music.html

contains many music files, some microtonal, with a "mov" extension.
I can download these readily enough, but I can't play them. They don't
seem to be Quicktime movies; they are small files the size of midi
files. Information on what these files are and how to play them would
be welcome.

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith"
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:

> http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/%7Eaahunt/music.html
>
> contains many music files, some microtonal, with a "mov" extension.
> I can download these readily enough, but I can't play them. They don't
> seem to be Quicktime movies; they are small files the size of midi
> files. Information on what these files are and how to play them would
> be welcome.

Eh, I take it back. Evidently Quicktime can be induced to play it, and
RealPlayer will play it also. Now my problem is that I think I was
wrong about some of these being microtonal. :(

>This page:
>
>http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/%7Eaahunt/music.html
>
>contains many music files, some microtonal, with a "mov" extension.
>I can download these readily enough, but I can't play them. They don't
>seem to be Quicktime movies; they are small files the size of midi
>files. Information on what these files are and how to play them would
>be welcome.

Probably MIDI wrapped in Quicktime.

-Carl

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith"
<genewardsmith@...> wrote:

> Eh, I take it back. Evidently Quicktime can be induced to play it, and
> RealPlayer will play it also. Now my problem is that I think I was
> wrong about some of these being microtonal. :(

The deal is, Quicktime can embed midi data into mov. In theory, such
files could be converted back into midi, which would be convenient.
Does anyone know about this sort of thing?

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@...> wrote:
>
> Probably MIDI wrapped in Quicktime.

How do you wrap and unwrap mov files?

At 03:13 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:
>--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@...> wrote:
>>
>> Probably MIDI wrapped in Quicktime.
>
>How do you wrap and unwrap mov files?

With a hex editor perhaps; perhaps with Quicktime Pro.

-Carl

At 02:30 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:
>Here's a web bio:
>
>http://www.eiu.edu/~music/faculty/bio_hunt.php
>
>Both microtonal intonation theory and microtonal notation are of great
>interest to this group, so I hope we hear more about it.

Looks like his website

http://emancipation-of-pitch.org/

is still under construction. He has some great stuff here

http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~aahunt/emancipation/index.html

though. In fact, I hadn't seen

http://improvise.free.fr/bosanquet/bosanquet.html

and

http://www.christopherstembridge.org/

though a good friend of mine who's a harpsichordist introduced
me to the builder of this instrument, Willard Martin, in 2000,
when I was visiting Paul Erlich in Boston, and the shop where he
built it was located in the nearest city to my home at the
time: Allentown, PA!

-Carl

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@> wrote:
> >
> > Probably MIDI wrapped in Quicktime.
>
> How do you wrap and unwrap mov files?
>

Sorry; I converted some of these MIDI files to movie files using quicktime, several years
ago. It's basically a way to protect MIDI files from being hijacked. As MIDI files don't notate
properly when imported anyway, I don't do this anymore.

There is no microtonal music on my music webpage. There are some instances of
quicktime misinterpreting MIDI modulation messages for pitch bend messages, though,
which results in some momentarily out of tune sounding notes.

There are links to microtonal stuff from my university pages, as well as:

www.emancipation-of-pitch.org
www.h-pi.com

The latter domain is slated for a commercial site for microtonal instruments and software,
including sequencing and notation software that I am working on now. This isn't news;
You may recall that Graham Breed saw my presentation at UK Microfest and posted a
review after that event including this info.

It's good to see Graham contributing so much recently. I hope it leads to a presentation at
the next UK microfest.

Aaron Hunt

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.christopherstembridge.org/

Very interesting website!

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "gooseplex" <cfaah@...> wrote:

> Sorry; I converted some of these MIDI files to movie files using
quicktime, several years
> ago. It's basically a way to protect MIDI files from being hijacked.

I don't know why people worry about that. Is there some reason why a
midi file being hijacked is different than a printed score being
hijacked? Anyway, I think the most usual way to do this is to use a
Sibelius Scorch file, or else an audio file. I thought the point of
wrapping it was to force people to use the Quicktime synth and not
their soundcard.

As MIDI files don't notate
> properly when imported anyway, I don't do this anymore.

Just as well; it also prevents people from doing various useful
things, such as rendering the file with Timidity or the like.

> There is no microtonal music on my music webpage.

Microtonal music would be nice. :)

> www.emancipation-of-pitch.org
> www.h-pi.com
>
> The latter domain is slated for a commercial site for microtonal
instruments and software,
> including sequencing and notation software that I am working on now.

How do you do your microtonal sequencing now?

>I don't know why people worry about that. Is there some reason why a
>midi file being hijacked is different than a printed score being
>hijacked?

The differences between digital an analog copying are well known.

>Anyway, I think the most usual way to do this is to use a
>Sibelius Scorch file,

He just said he doesn't want to give away a human-readable score.
However, he probably doesn't realize that posting one is one of the
best ways to establish his copyright.

>I thought the point of wrapping it was to force people to use the
>Quicktime synth and not their soundcard.

The quicktime client lets you specify a synth for MIDI playback.

-Carl

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@...> wrote:

> He just said he doesn't want to give away a human-readable score.
> However, he probably doesn't realize that posting one is one of the
> best ways to establish his copyright.

Posting a midi file works equally well, particularly if you stick in a
few lines of text giving your name and claiming authorship.

gooseplex wrote:
> It's good to see Graham contributing so much recently. I hope it leads to a presentation at > the next UK microfest.

Thank you! I'm on the road now, may not be so visible for a while. Have fun everybody.

Graham