Synched mavilla

Mavilla, the 135/128 temperament, is the one with the ultra-flat
fifths. Mavilla[7] is like Meantone[7], with three major and three
minor triads, but makes up for it by being much more out of tune.
Below I give synched versions of the 7 and 16 note mavilla MOS; if
Herman has any mavilla pieces lying around he might want to try this
tuning.

! mavsynch7.scl
Mavilla[7] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
! fifth satisfies f^4 + f^3 - 8 = 0
7
!
152.674307
370.988539
523.662846
676.337154
829.011461
1047.325693
1200.000000

! mavsynch16.scl
Mavilla[16] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
! fifth satisfies f^4 + f^3 - 8 = 0
16
!
65.639925
152.674307
218.314232
305.348614
370.988539
458.022921
523.662846
610.697228
676.337154
741.977079
829.011461
894.651386
981.685768
1047.325693
1134.360075
1200.000000

Gene Ward Smith wrote:
> Mavilla, the 135/128 temperament, is the one with the ultra-flat
> fifths. Mavilla[7] is like Meantone[7], with three major and three
> minor triads, but makes up for it by being much more out of tune.
> Below I give synched versions of the 7 and 16 note mavilla MOS; if
> Herman has any mavilla pieces lying around he might want to try this
> tuning. Nothing really close to being finished, but I've got a sketch of some Gargoyle music that I was working on a few years back when I first found out about the mavila scale in 16-ET. I don't remember what timbres I was using except for the xylophone, which is a favorite instrument of the Gargoyles (from the Ultima games). This isn't based on any music that was actually used in the Ultima games, although there's some vague similarity to the Gargoyle theme from Ultima VI.

http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-16et.mp3

Near the end it modulates and repeats the opening melody in a different key, so it's interesting to hear what effect this has in the mavila tuning.

http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-mavila.mp3

I myself enjoy very much the Santur music of Prince of Persia 1 and 2. Is that tuned to Dastgah Chargah?
----- Original Message -----
From: Herman Miller
To: tuning-math@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 13 Ekim 2005 Perşembe 8:31
Subject: Re: [tuning-math] Synched mavilla

Gene Ward Smith wrote:
> Mavilla, the 135/128 temperament, is the one with the ultra-flat
> fifths. Mavilla[7] is like Meantone[7], with three major and three
> minor triads, but makes up for it by being much more out of tune.
> Below I give synched versions of the 7 and 16 note mavilla MOS; if
> Herman has any mavilla pieces lying around he might want to try this
> tuning.

Nothing really close to being finished, but I've got a sketch of some
Gargoyle music that I was working on a few years back when I first found
out about the mavila scale in 16-ET. I don't remember what timbres I was
using except for the xylophone, which is a favorite instrument of the
Gargoyles (from the Ultima games). This isn't based on any music that
was actually used in the Ultima games, although there's some vague
similarity to the Gargoyle theme from Ultima VI.

http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-16et.mp3

Near the end it modulates and repeats the opening melody in a different
key, so it's interesting to hear what effect this has in the mavila tuning.

http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-mavila.mp3

Why do members of these lists insist on inserting an extra "l"
in "Mavila", making it "Mavilla"? Where does this latter spelling
derive from?

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...>
wrote:
>
> Mavilla, the 135/128 temperament, is the one with the ultra-flat
> fifths. Mavilla[7] is like Meantone[7], with three major and three
> minor triads, but makes up for it by being much more out of tune.
> Below I give synched versions of the 7 and 16 note mavilla MOS; if
> Herman has any mavilla pieces lying around he might want to try this
> tuning.
>
> ! mavsynch7.scl
> Mavilla[7] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
> ! fifth satisfies f^4 + f^3 - 8 = 0
> 7
> !
> 152.674307
> 370.988539
> 523.662846
> 676.337154
> 829.011461
> 1047.325693
> 1200.000000
>
> ! mavsynch16.scl
> Mavilla[16] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
> ! fifth satisfies f^4 + f^3 - 8 = 0
> 16
> !
> 65.639925
> 152.674307
> 218.314232
> 305.348614
> 370.988539
> 458.022921
> 523.662846
> 610.697228
> 676.337154
> 741.977079
> 829.011461
> 894.651386
> 981.685768
> 1047.325693
> 1134.360075
> 1200.000000
>

Probably they think of vanilla cream with chocolate icing and cherry on top.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Erlich
To: tuning-math@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 14 Ekim 2005 Cuma 22:18
Subject: [tuning-math] Re: Synched mavilla

Why do members of these lists insist on inserting an extra "l"
in "Mavila", making it "Mavilla"? Where does this latter spelling
derive from?

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...>
wrote:
>
> Mavilla, the 135/128 temperament, is the one with the ultra-flat
> fifths. Mavilla[7] is like Meantone[7], with three major and three
> minor triads, but makes up for it by being much more out of tune.
> Below I give synched versions of the 7 and 16 note mavilla MOS; if
> Herman has any mavilla pieces lying around he might want to try this
> tuning.
>
> ! mavsynch7.scl
> Mavilla[7] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
> ! fifth satisfies f^4 + f^3 - 8 = 0
> 7
> !
> 152.674307
> 370.988539
> 523.662846
> 676.337154
> 829.011461
> 1047.325693
> 1200.000000
>
> ! mavsynch16.scl
> Mavilla[16] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
> ! fifth satisfies f^4 + f^3 - 8 = 0
> 16
> !
> 65.639925
> 152.674307
> 218.314232
> 305.348614
> 370.988539
> 458.022921
> 523.662846
> 610.697228
> 676.337154
> 741.977079
> 829.011461
> 894.651386
> 981.685768
> 1047.325693
> 1134.360075
> 1200.000000
>

>Near the end it modulates and repeats the opening melody in a different
>key, so it's interesting to hear what effect this has in the mavila tuning.
>
>http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-mavila.mp3

What tuning is this in?

-Carl

Carl Lumma wrote:
>>Near the end it modulates and repeats the opening melody in a different >>key, so it's interesting to hear what effect this has in the mavila tuning.
>>
>>http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-mavila.mp3
> > > What tuning is this in?

The 16-note version of the mavila tuning from Gene's original message.

! mavsynch16.scl
Mavilla[16] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
! fifth satisfies f4 + f3 - 8 = 0
16
!
65.639925
152.674307
218.314232
305.348614
370.988539
458.022921
523.662846
610.697228
676.337154
741.977079
829.011461
894.651386
981.685768
1047.325693
1134.360075
1200.000000

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Erlich" <perlich@a...> wrote:
>
> Why do members of these lists insist on inserting an extra "l"
> in "Mavila", making it "Mavilla"? Where does this latter spelling
> derive from?

Not everyone is an expert speller. "Mavilla" sounds Spanish, and it's
how you would presumably spell it if it was Spanish. What the heck
does it mean, anyway?

Tx. -C.

At 06:02 PM 10/14/2005, you wrote:
>Carl Lumma wrote:
>>>Near the end it modulates and repeats the opening melody in a different
>>>key, so it's interesting to hear what effect this has in the mavila tuning.
>>>
>>>http://home.comcast.net/~teamouse/gargoyle-mavila.mp3
>>
>>
>> What tuning is this in?
>
>The 16-note version of the mavila tuning from Gene's original message.
>
>! mavsynch16.scl
>Mavilla[16] in synch (brat=-1) tuning
>! fifth satisfies f4 + f3 - 8 = 0
>16
>!
>65.639925
>152.674307
>218.314232
>305.348614
>370.988539
>458.022921
>523.662846
>610.697228
>676.337154
>741.977079
>829.011461
>894.651386
>981.685768
>1047.325693
>1134.360075
>1200.000000
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...>
wrote:
>
> --- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Erlich" <perlich@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > Why do members of these lists insist on inserting an extra "l"
> > in "Mavila", making it "Mavilla"? Where does this latter spelling
> > derive from?
>
> Not everyone is an expert speller. "Mavilla" sounds Spanish, and
it's
> how you would presumably spell it if it was Spanish.

In Spanish, Mavilla would be pronounced Ma-vi-ya. No 'L' sound. Use a
single letter 'L', and the Spanish reader *will* use the 'L' sound.
So what do you mean, it's how you would presumably spell it if it was
Spanish?

> What the heck
> does it mean, anyway?

Apparently it's the place (in Mozambique?) where the Chopi were using
such a tuning on their xylophones-type instruments. I'm sure Kraig
knows more.