I have slightly edited Brian's message this AM in the direction of civility as I think it has enough interesting points to be worth posting, even if it is "old business." The JI versus ET or nj-net debate is unlikely to be resolved, especially since Roberts and Mathews found that there are two types of listeners, those that prefer JI and those that prefer the richness of intervals tuned sharp or flat in triads. Frankly, given the over-learning of 12-tet that musically trained subjects will have been subjected to and the self-selection that musically naive persons will have undergone for the lack of musical discrimination abilities, I tend to be skeptical of many preference studies. My advice is for composers and performers to use the tuning they find best for their musical purposes. I suspect that their audiences will usually agree.
Roberts, Linda A. and Max Mathews. "Intonation Sensitivity in Traditional and Non-Traditional Chords", Journal of the Acoustical Society of America vol. 75, 1984, pp. 952-959.
--John
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I would like to respond to some of Brian's good points about just intervals, but before getting into specifics, I would like to talk about the musical applicability of these studies. I would imagine that if you asked subjects to state their "preference" between minor seconds and major thirds, the thirds would be a near unanimous choice. Does this mean that minor seconds should never be used in music?
Also, I don't think many people since the time of Helmholtz have claimed that small-number ratios are the only criterion of consonance. Certainly I have not. Consonance, in a musical sense as well as a strictly psychoacoustic sense (if there is such a thing) is a very complex phenomenon that depends on the ratio, on its relationship to the critical bandwidth, on the relative timbres, the absolute frequencies, the loudness, and, not least of all, the musical context.
Finally, as John Chalmers has pointed out, these studies are not without their cultural biases. Though such biases difficult to test, given the current ubiquity of twelve-tone equal temperament through radio and television, I think that one is bound to show a "preference" for the familiar. Some evidence for this comes from the article Brian quoted earlier: Kessler, Hansen, and Shepard, "Tonal Schemata in the Perception of Music in Bali and the West" (Music Perception, Winter 1984 V2/2, 131-165).
>[1] [Comparison of sqrt(3/2) to 45/32]
I personally find 45/32 much too high a ratio to be called "consonant," and I don't really hear it as just. To take a fairer comparison, I do find 7/5 more consonant than a neutral third.
>[2] Tune up 11/9 and compare it to 9/8. Which sounds more >consonant?
This is true and illustrates my problem with a reliance on LCM analysis. Because 9/8 is small and, depending on the absolute frequency, may lie within the critical bandwidth, I find it relatively dissonant. I don't think that the relative simplicity of the ratios are as much of an issue.
>[3] Tune up a second inversion 4:5:6 chord--that is, a just major >chord with a 4/3 in the bass, i.e., a 9:12:15 triad. Now compare it >with a 10:12:15 minor chord.
If one resolves the numbers here you have 4/3 and 5/3 in the first and 6/5 and 3/2 in the second. Based only on the ratios, I find 5/3 and 6/5 equivalent -- they are inversions of each other. That leaves 4/3 and 3/2. Clearly 3/2 is the more stable because it lies lower in the harmonic series.
>[4] Tune up the ratio 3:5:7 and then tune up the ratio 18:22:27. >Which one sounds more consonant?
Here I have to disagree. While they both have distinctive sounds, I find the 3/5 and 5/7 intervals more consonant than the 11/9 interval of the second triad.
>This also sidesteps the dilemma of the just perfect fourth.
The dilemma of the perfect fourth is in part a historical artifact of producing counterpoint by counting intervals relative to the lowest sound voice (which for simplicity I'll call the bass). Thus the apparent consonance of the perfect fourth and perfect fifth sounding together if one only looks at them relative to the bass is taken care of by considering the fourth dissonant. As is obvious to anyone looking at all the interval combinations, the dissonance is not so much the fourth as the second between the two upper voices.
The second reason for considering the fourth relative to the bass a "dissonance" is to explain the need for the second inversion triad to resolve. To me, this need for resolution is not so much because the 9:12:15 is "dissonant" as the simplest interval lies higher in the harmonic series than either the octave or the perfect fifth. Therefore the chord sounds less stable than one based on a 3/2. Also, some medieval musicians were not bothered by this relative instability.
>Too, as Norman Cazden points out: >"Traditional rules of harmony and counterpoint explicitly >proscribe parallel successions of perfect intervals, though >with the unaccountable excpetion of that same troublesome >fourth when it is not in the lowest placement.
Using the stylistic conventions of one musical culture during one period of history is a weak justification at best. The main reason behind the prohibition of parallel perfect intervals was to maintain the independence of the voices sought by European polyphonic composers of the 15th to 19th centuries.
Parallel octaves causes the texture to suddenly thin because the octave lies so low in the harmonic series -- which is why we tend to consider men and women singing in parallel octaves virtually the same as monophony. Put another way, the upper voices are doubling a harmonic already present in the lower voices.
So, do we prohibit all parallel intervals, since they must be found in the same harmonic series of some fundamental somewhere? Of course not. As we move further up the harmonic series the impression of the two voices operating "as a single unit" becomes less and less prominent. So where does one draw the line? Perfect unison? Perfect octave? Perfect fifth? Perfect fourth? Major third? Minor third? Well, composers of the 15th century chose the draw the line between the perfect fifth and the perfect fourth. Incidentally, it is interesting to note that 13th century motet composers quite intentionally avoided parallel thirds, though parallel fifths and fourths are often found.
I have nothing against composers who prefer the musical usefulness of equal temperament or any other type of temperament. Nazir Jairazhboy, the Indian music master quoted by Brian earlier, points out that he finds that tempered intervals can give extra tension to a melody in need of resolution. As Brian has pointed out as well, the Javanese find perfect 2/1 octaves rather lifeless and usually try to compress or expand them.
However, to say that there is some natural predilection for just, equal-tempered, or any other kind of scale is, I think, to misunderstand the relationship between nature and art. Certainly one would think Brian would understand this, having composed in JI himself, according to John.
Bill
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From: mclaren Subject: The hideous truth about web searches for info on the word "microtonality" - post 2 of 2 -- (COMMENT: Predictably, a small vocal minority will contradict with a great deal of misinformation every statement made in the last post. Here, as cold hard proof that no useful info is yet available to the microtonal beginner on the WWW, is an actual transcript of a typical web search session:)
Lycos search: microtonality 66557959 unique documents in catalog. Your query resulted in 27 relevant documents on 3 pages.
Words searched: microtonality These words were ignored:
Just Intonation and Microtonality http://www.ftech.co.uk/~rainbow/just.html
(COMMENT: This is a dead 404 URL)
Music-Research Digest Fri, 2 Feb 90 Volume 5 : Issue 8 Today's Topics: Call for papers on microtonality Cognitive Musicology (from: Research Digest Vol. 5, #02) DARMS parsers/manipulators ... ftp://cattell.psych.upenn.edu/pub/Music.Research/5.08
(COMMENT: A call for papers on microtonality. Useless as a source of info.)
(COMMENT: An electronic music thread. No discernable relation to microtonality, except perhaps that one of the synthesizers mentioned might be retunable.)
CDeMUSIC CDeMUSIC is a worldwide service that gives you easy, direct-mail access to one of the most comprehensive selections of compact discs of experimental, exceptional, and/or electronic music... http://www.emf.org/emusic.html
(COMMENT: A couple of their discs are microtonal--the Easley Blackwood "12 Etudes" and the Ivor Darreg "Detwevulate!" 99% of CDeMUSIC's discs are *not* microtonal.)
ZIA With virtually every major industrial band somehow interconnected with one another through side projects, it was only natural for the burgeoning electronic scene in Boston to also take on ... http://ftp.std.com/obi/Zines/Chaos.Control/ZIA.html
(COMMENT: Web page for Elaine Walker's ZIA, a 19-tet and Bohlen-Pierce tuning industrial band.)
Partch's Legacy. Perhaps the obvious subject for this opening column is Ben Johnston. I was never one to avoid the obvious. Johnston is of interest to the Society as one of the ... http://www.ftech.net/~rainbow/legacy.html
(COMMENT: A dead 404 URL)
Robert Rich Biography Biography for Robert Rich Music Style: Progressive electronic, Ethnic fusion, Ambient, Techno-Tribal Instrument: Synthesizers, flute, guitar, percussion Building his first ...
(COMMENT: Robert Rich web page. Useless as a source of info on microtonality, though Rich *is* a microtonalist.)
Interview for ND Magazine Interview for ND Magazine with Todd Zachritz June 29, 1993 1) First, how did you become interested in sound construction/music? Since I started playing music when I was ... http://www.amoeba.com/rrich/rr/nd.html
(COMMENT: No perceptible relation to microtonality. He talks about computer musique concrete.)
Frequence Interview Interview with David Bottile at Frequence 6 March 1995 1) Tell us about your work in Psychology. I got my university degree in psychology, focusing on psychophysiology, ... http://www.amoeba.com/rrich/rr/frequence.html
(COMMENT: No discernible relation to microtonality. He talks about psychoacoustics and the psychology of music.)
T Index - MIDI Classics T Index - MIDI Classics T Product Index TECHNO DANCE/ SMF #3302 SEQ $26.96 TRADITIONAL CHRISTMAS/ SMF #3299 SEQ $26.96 TRANSPORT/ MAC- nonlin avid protools deck #1991 S/W ...
(COMMENTS: Ads for DSP software and MIDI sequences. NO relation whatsoever to microtonality.)
ACCA PACKAGES data structure Amsterdam Catalogue of Composition Algorithms home page of ACCA home page of Alfa-Informatica PACKAGES data structure The PACKAGES database is meant to contain all ... http://mars.let.uva.nl/ACCA/Database.Packages.html
(COMMENT: Compositional algorithms. NO relation whatsoever to microtonality.)
Interview with Elliott Sharp [Return to ESTWeb Home Page] [Return to Interviews Index] An Elliott Sharp discography exists on the net. There is also a web page maintained by Extreme Records. An ... http://www.ultraviolet.com./zines/est/intervs/sharp.html
(COMMENT: What a shock--this person is actually a microtonalist. Along with Elaine Walker's ZIA and the EMF page, that's 3 references that have *anything* to do with microtonality so far...)
The Noise (Festival) Of American Music The Noise (Festival) Of American Music Normally, Sacramento is a pretty sleepy town when it comes to music and art. I guess I'm talking about culture. Being... http://beercity.com/heckler/noise.html
(COMMENT: No relation whatsoever to microtonality. Industrial music festival in Sacramento.)
Industrial Prehistory: Anti-Music ii.Anti-Music Although it would be nice to trace back the idea of using noise as an element in music to the futurist Luigi Russolo's manifesto, The Art of Noises... http://www.schwa.org/zines/est/articles/prehist5.html
(COMMENT: An industrial music essay. No relation whatsoever to microtonality.)
SoundCanvas User's Group WWW Help Centre SCUG - WWW Help Centre! Mr. Web Counter says that have been helped since June 9, 1996. Roland Go to Roland's Home Page http://www.interlog.com/~stilpaul/scug/help/help.html
(COMMENT: Technical details on the Roland Sound Canvas card. Only the most tenuous connection to microtonality, since the Sound Canvas can theoretically be retuned. No info on how to tune it to various temperaments or just intonations, though.)
BG - What's New Viol o Page Guitar Page What's New Index: Badi Assad in Boston That's really hot, Mannis!!! If you are in the Boston area, don't miss it!!! http://www.cce.ufpr.br/~ofraga/whatsnew.html
(COMMENT: Boston thrash punk bands. No relation whatsoever to microtonality.)
Date: Monday, 08-Apr-96 01:20:20 GMT Last-Modified: Thursday, 26-Oct-95 18:28:55 GMT Content-type: text/html Content-length: 8213 Music 315 Music in the 20th Century: Music and Technology MUSC ... http://orpheus.tamu.edu/music.program.web/computer. music/Mustech.html
(COMMENT: Course offering from Texas A & M University. The course mentions Harry Partch as a footnote. This is what you call "getting desperate" in the search for the word "microtonality"...)
Events - May 1994 To Do & Notice - May 1994 May 1 Special Exhibitions Science Stuff You Can Do with Beakman and Jax Last Day Based on the internationally syndicated Sunday cartoon strip that ... http://www.exploratorium.edu//./events/may_1994.html
(COMMENT: No relation whatsoever to microtonality. How did this get in here?)
Silence Digest Volume 1 Number 27 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id JAA06515 for silence-digest-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 09:55:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995... http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt/Cage/cage0127.html
(COMMENT: A webzine devoted to the inept charlatan John Cage. No relation whatsoever to microtonality. How did this get in here?)
Events - June 1994 To Do & Notice June 94 June 1 Interactive Sound Studio Special Exhibition and Summer Festival Through September 5 A three-month-long festival of sound and music (previously ... http://www.ylem.org/./events/june_1994.html
(COMMENT: An ad for some interactive museum exhibit. No connection whatsoever with microtonality. How did this get in here?)
List of microtonal music on CD Microtonal music on CD This list contains microtonal/xenharmonic/non-12 music on CD only and no works in 12-note just intonation, 12-note in historical temperaments... ftp://mills.edu/ccm/tuning/papers/discs.html
(COMMENT: At long last, something informative...this is my and Manuel Op de Coul's list of microtonal CDs at the Mills site.)
Bibliography on synthesizers, Midi, Computer and Electronic Music Bibliography on synthesizers, Midi, Computer and Electronic Music Version: $Id: bibliography,v 1.39 1996/02/05 14:36:15 piet Exp ... http://www.ircam.fr/biblio/bibliography.html
(COMMENT: No relation whatsoever to microtonality. How did this get in here?)
ACCA: List of Tools Amsterdam Catalogue of Composition Algorithms home page of ACCA home page of Alfa-Informatica List of Tools by and reproduced with permission of Leonidas Hepis LIST OF TOOLS ... http://homepage.interaccess.com/~beckwith/d0004/s0000326.htm
(COMMENT: Again, this has nothing to do with microtonality, and we've seen it before.)
(COMMENT: And b-dat b-dat b-dat b-dat's all, folks! What an incredible list of non sequitur junk info, eh? Out of ALL of these references, only 4 had anything to do with microtonality: [1] Manuel's and my list of microtonal music on CD, [2] The EMF catalog containing a couple of microtonal CDs, [3] the Elliott Sharp website, [4] Elaine Walker's ZIA website. *Notice that the most useful starting point on microtonality anywhere on the web--the microtonal bibliography at mills-- was NOT found.* Good work! So the search engine turned up VAST amounts of irrelevant *crap,* but COULDN'T FIND the single most useful source of info on microtonality on the web. Hey...that sounds about right. Web pages on algorithmic composition and industrial music... a bibliography of books on synthesizers...a "special exhibition of science stuff" at a museum... You know, as long as the Lycos search engine was finding irrelevant trivia in its search for "microtonality" on the web and *ignoring* the single most useful source of info *about* microtonality on the web, why not just go all the way? I mean, why do things by halves? Why didn't LYCOS just spit up a list of URLs at random? The Sudan Web Site...Sex life of frogs web page... the Chrysler web page...these non sequitur websites have exactly as much to do with microtonality as the actual sites puked up by the LYCOS search engine. Worst of all, this is TYPICAL of the results for ALL search engines. Naturally a few of you will vociferously claim that all these statements are untrue, etc., etc. Alas, there seem to be a handful of forum subscribers dedicated to purveying misinformation and canards whenever and wherever possible. The brutal fact is that the only way to weed out all the junk info and bad hits containing websites irrelevant to microtonality is to refine your search for the word "microtonality" in such a sophisticated way that you'd have to already know what you're looking for. In short, all the search engines on the web generate useful info on microtonality *ONLY* if the searcher *already knows* exactly what s/he's looking for. But this is *never* going to be the case for a microtonal beginner. Thus, newcomers to microtonality are left high and dry--left to wander for themselves in a blizzard of junkthink, guitar ads, industrial music reviews and web pages touting MIDI software which has *nothing* whatsoever to do with microtonality. Ladies and gentlemen, you'd have better luck examining tea leaves in your quest for useful information about microtonality than in searching the world wide web. --mclaren
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From: mclaren Subject: Technology drives tuning -- Having made this claim, it behooves me to offer proof. We read in Boethius that Pythagoras discovered the relationship of fifth and octave by listening to a blacksmith's hammers. The weights of the hammers purportedly produced different pitches when the blacksmith smote the anvil. This is of course pure fantasy. Hammers of different weights striking an anvil give off the same tone at different volumes. It is the bell, not the clapper, which produces a tone, and the pitch of the tone is not determined by the mass of the clapper but by the mass and shape of the bell. (Bells have recently been designed by computer to sound a major chord rather than a minor chord.) In any case, simply doubling the weight which hangs at the end of a string would produce a pitch in the ratio of 1.414 to the original note (Pythagoras was supposed to have rushed home and performed this experiment; obviously he did not, nor did Boethius. Galileo's father did, and published the results.). Doubling anvil weights produces an interval not of an octave but a tritone. As it happens, vibrating metal bars behave differently from strings, and so the tale about Pythagoras is a myth. However, this tall tale shows pretty clearly the level of technology available in classical Greece. Pythagoras didn't rush home and try out his theory on a keyboard instrument or a zither with 88 different strings at high tension because the Greeks didn't have the technology to build such instruments. For one thing, you have to know a good deal about metallurgy to produce tough wires as would be needed in a harpsichord or zither or piano; for another, the Greeks didn't have the technology to machine metal as is required to produce metal screws, iron frameworks for pianos, etc. What sort of intonation system is most appropriate for a technology limited to lyres with only a few gut strings and some wind instruments? Because gut changes its tension with humidity and because it must be kept at low tension lest the gut strings break, the intonation best suited for such technology would use only the simplest and most obvious members of the harmonic series. Plucked gut strings produce harmonic series timbres, so the second and third members of the harmonic series would be most useful in tuning such instruments. Because of the extremely low tension of a tortoise-shell lyre (try and add a lot of strings or tune them to high tension and either the back of the lyre will collapse or the gut strings will snap), the sounds will be faint and only the very lowest harmonics will be audible. The 5th harmonic and higher harmonics would probably have been extremely faint on a plucked gut string, too faint to tune to. Thus the technology of classical Greek music lent itself primarily to Pythagorean tuning. The tuning of auloi is not so limited; however, it remains unclear what the Greek auloi were. Some authors claim they were similar to oboes, in which case they would demand a tremendous amount of air. Other authors claims the Greek auloi were more flute-like, in which case the sound would have been much louder and the players less sorely taxed. However, even today it's impossible to calculate precisely the position of tone holes for simple wood instruments theoretically; the theory never matches the actual position. In classical times, the position of tone holes would have been a matter of guesstimation, and this would have necessarily limited the intonational complexity of Greek auloi. Net result? Pythagorean tuning was a technological necessity for the Greeks, as it was for the bablyonians and the Sumerians. These latter recorded a Pythagorean tuning on tablet U7/80 (Side 2) in the British Museum; it is almost certain that the tall tales about Pythagoras mask an intonational tradition which drifted from the older civilizations of Egypt and the Euphrates valley to the newer civilizations of the Mediterranean. -- Inventions were common in the classical era of ancient Greece: Ktesibos of Alexandria build a device to produce "intermittant bird song" around 270 B.C. It worked by regulating the flow of water into a closed chamber. But such devices were very limited in their musical utility because the air pressure was low and so the "bird songs" would have been extremely faint--and when the chamber designed to catch the streamof water filled up, the sound would have stopped. Ktesibos solved this problem by using a double-barreled water pump he had devised to fight fires--he modified this pump to create a continuous source of compressed air. The roman author Hero reports around the first century B.C. that Ktesibos used three components to build his hydraulis (water organ): a single-cylinder air pump, a large cistern filled with water, and a smaller vessel attached to the bottom of the cistern to act as a regulator to keep constant the rate of flow of water out of the cistern. This organ used sliders moving in and out of slots below each pipe; the sliders were controlled by the keys of the keyboard and when a player pressed a key, the hole in the slider aligned with the opening in the corresponding pipe. By spring action, the keys recoiled, dragging each slider back to its closed position. Notice several problems with this organ. First, it must have required at least as much force to depress a key as would be required to drag each slider back into its closed position. Second, the organ can play only as long as the cistern contains water. Third, the size of the cistern and its height determine the maximum available air pressure and thus the total number of pipes and the maximum volume of the sound. But the biggest problem is that as more and more keys were depressed, the air pressure would drop because the regulator at the bottom of the cistern would prohibit water from flowing at more than a certain maximum rate from the reservoir. This means that if more than one key was depressed, the overall air pressure of the organ would drop and the overall pitch of all notes would fall. It would not have been possible to remedy this by eliminating the regulator, since its purpose is to maintain even air pressure--otherwise there would initially be high air pressure as a great mass of water started to press down on the pump at the start and the air pressure would continually fall as the mass of water in the cistern continually lessened. Thus Ktesibos' organ would not have been useful for performing with other instruments, since its pitch changed as more keys were depressed. Also, it could only play for a short time, and the creaking of the wooden pump and the burble of water pouring out of the cistern would have made the instrument hard to hear. As a result, the hydraulis was only a novelty item. Even so it impressed contemporaries: Athenaeus describes a feast at which the hydraulis was discussed: "The sound of the hydraulis was heard close by. So pleasant and charming was it that we all turned towards the sound, fascinating by the harmony." The reaction here hints at the surprise and shock Alexandrian citizens must have felt at hearing sustained chords. This was clearly alien to their experience. It is reasonable to assume that the hydraulis used Pythagorean intonation; remember that the pitch changes as more keys are depressed. This would make an elaborate tuning system very hard to tune up. Even Pythagorean was probably only roughly approximated on such organs. The Romans used such instruments at the arena; the oldest archaeological remains of an organ were unearthed at Aquincum (near currest-day Budapest), dedicated in A.D. 228 to the college of weavers there. Having listened to the hydraulis, the Pythagorean Philolaus proclaimed: "The nature of number and harmony admits no falsehood... But in fact number, fitting all things into the soul through sense-perception makes them recognizable and comparable with one another." This is a fine statement of the Pythagorean conception of the universe as an expression of pure theoretical math. Music was unpopular with the early leaders of Christianity. Divine revelation was preferred to the study of nature. Early Christian thinkers did not have much interest in the application of logic and the study of physical evidence (an attitude represented on this forum by Greg Taylor); instead, they preferred the mystic contemplation of sacred verse, from which music proved an unwanted distraction. Saint Augustine wrote in the early 5th century that he found music in any form suspect, but allowed as how "now when I hear sung in a sweet and well-trained voice those mleodies...I do, I confess, feel a pleasurable relaxation. But this bodily pleasure to which the mind should not succumb without enervation, often deceives me.... In these matters I sin without realizing it." The message is clear: to the early Christians, beautiful music was a sin. (This is an attitude remarkably similar to that of many academic music theorists of the modern day.) -- The first organ to reach Western Europe after the sack of Rome in 476 was a gift from the Byzantine emperor Constantine V to the Frankish king Pepin in the year 757. The gift excited amazement because its like had not been seen for hundreds of years--a clear indication of how much knowledge and scientific thought could be lost forgotten and how badly the capacity for clear thinking could erode during the Dark Ages (a fate which awaits us all if we follow the prescriptions of the Eric Lyons and the Greg Taylors of the world). Ermold le Noir wrote an epic in which he proclaimed "Even the organ, never yet seen in France, which was the overweening pride of Greece and which in Constantinople was the sole reason for them to feel superior to us--even that is now in the palace of Aix." The organ was slowly transformed into an engine of divine worship in the churches--this took a while, given the attitude of Augustine: "Whatever knowledge man has acquired outside of Holy Writ, if it be harmful it is there condemned; if it be wholesome, it is there contained." (An attitude remarkably similar to that of contemporary music professors, save that their Holy Writ is Schoenberg's "Harmonielehre" and John Cage's "Silence.") Organs were increasingly optimized for volume. By the 990s this led to what Wulstan described as "Like Thunder, the strident voice assails the ear, shutting out all other sounds than its own; such are its reverberations, echoing here and there, that each man lifts his hands to stop his ears, unable as he drawn hear to tolerate the roaring of so many different and noisy combinations." Clearly volume came at the price of intonational precision--the "noisy combinations" surely describe the effect of an unsteady air-flow on the pitches of the individual pipes. This organ (like most around the 900s) did not seem to have been used for music so much as to amaze and shock the crowd and entice them into attending church services. By the 12th century, organs had been accepted into the church in a feat of intellectual jiu-jitsu similar to Thomas Aquinas' introduction of Aristotle. By this time the organs clearly had worked up high air pressure, though the steadiness of their intonation was probably still poor: Saint Aelred, abbot at Rievaulx in Yorkshire, wrote "What use, pray is this terrifying blast from the bellows that is better suited to imitate the noise of thunder than the sweetness of the human voice..." This quote indicates that the organs were now using bellows--in fact banks of them, one for each pipe, with serfs treading on them in time to the music. This would have greatly increased air pressure, but it required the serfs to tread in lockstep and more to the point the air pressure would still change over the course of a note as the bellows emptied. The initial higher air pressure would, ironically, have produced a more drastic drop in the pitch of each note while it sounded. Moreover, the notes could not sound for a very long time--only as long as it took the bellows feeding air to that pipe to empty. The overall effect would have been of a set of notes which dropped in pitch as they were sounded and which would have had to be played in strict robotic meter; however, the problem of polyphony changing the overall pitch of the organ had been solved, and the organs of the 12th century would have sounded much louder than that of Ktesibos. Moreover, these 12th-century organs still didn't have keyboards. They were played by ramming blocks of wood forward and back to open up and cut off the flow of air into each pipe. Given the size of the pipes, this would have been a real workout. Some time between the 11th century and the 14th century, true keyboards appeared. These were spring-loaded, like Ktesibos' keys. They still had to be bashed with the fist--but they could now be played more musically. Given the persistent problems with changing pitch and lack of any kind of real keyboard, Pythagorean intonation was still used into the 12th century according to the organ- building manuals of that period--even though modern keyboards had started to evolve. However, by the 14th century small portable foot-pumped organs were starting to appear. Henri Arnaut published the best suriviving text on building medieval organs in 1450; around this time the single greatest innovation in musical technology between 100 B.C. and 1800 A.D. was introduced--the multiple-chamber bellows. Water-operated organs were clumsy because they demanded a source of water and they could only play for a limited time; bellows were better because they could be pumped relatively silently (I've played some of these portatives and you can't hear the bellows). Adding a second chamber onto the bellows produced constant air pressure. The second inner chamber of the bellows had an aperature into which air could be forced but could exit except through the organ pipes. Thus, even though the pressure of the primary bellows constantly changed as it was pumped, the secondary chamber maintained a relatively constant air flow. Around this time Napier also introduced the logarithm, making possible calculations which treated musical intervals as portions of the octave which could be added and subtracted rather than as messy complex grade-school fractions which had to be multiplied and divided. These two advances had an explosive impact on intonation. Within a few generations of the late 1400s, the Pythagorean intonation was no longer in widespread use (though it was still taught in music theory--much as 12-TET is still universally taught today even thought modern composers are using it less and less). Organs with large numbers of pipes became common. Moreover, serfs no longer needed to tread in strict time on sets of bellows. By adding a secondary chamber, all the pipes could be connected to a single bellows and as long as it was large enough, the air pressure would be sufficient that no matter how many keys were depressed (within some reasonable limit) the overall air pressure inside the inner chamber (after the secondary bellows) wouldn't change. This not only allowed composers and performers to explore much wilder and less regular rhythms, it also allowed more elaborate intonational schemes than 3-limit just, and it made possible the exploration of complex polyphony with many notes of stable pitch sounding all at once. With more notes available on the organ keyboard, the possibility of modulation is correspondingly greater. Between the early 1500s and the middle 1700s this increasing use of modulation by composers would have made various meantone systems particularly popular. Indeed, Mark LIndley claims that the early English virginal piece "Ut, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La" by John Bull (written in the late 1500s) used 1/3-comma meantone. Bull was a wild-eyed avant garde composer, the Stockhausen of his time, and this sounds reasonable given Bull's penchant for pushing the outside of the musical envelope. The next post concludes this examination of technology's effect on tuning. --mclaren
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From: mclaren Subject: technology and intonation -- A tenth century text on organ building laid out the rules for pipe length exactly as Pythagoras would have in the Greek era. Start with a pipe and call it C. Divide it into 4 parts, remove one and you have the pipe for the low F. Divide the C pipe into 3, throw away one part, and the resulting pipe sounds a G above C. Divide the G pipe into three, add one part to it, and the result is D below G. The instructions continue in the same way, producing a completely standard Pythagorean scale that effectively translates the tuning of a monochord into fixed ratios of pipe length. This is a typical reaction to new technology. As Marshall McLuhan pointed out, new forms of technology typically start by taking on the modes and habits of older forms of tehcnology. Only gradually does the new technology start to develop unique and novel modes of use. For example, early printing presses used type designed to fool its readers into thinking the letters had been written by hand. Each letter was carefully designed to imitate the shape of a letter written in ink with a square-nibbed pen; printers of the 1490s even used multiple typesets with different inks to produce the effect of illumination by scribes with red ink for special words, etc. Early television programs imitated plays; early Internet applications imitate magazines--for example, this tuning forum. The world wide web is not limited to ASCII text, as is this tuning forum, and soon sounds will be sent attached to graphics and text as a matter of course (this still takes too much bandwidth today--a 44.1 khz stereo soundfiles demands 10.5 megs of data per minute). In the 1450s Duke Philip's organ designer Henri Arnaut came up with the idea of modifying the Pythagorean system to keep as many fifths pure as possible while still making as many keys as possible listenable (i.e., triads without excessive beats). This was in retrospect a failed attempt to use the new technology of the modern organ for polyphonic music; meantone tuning did the opposite of Arnaut's procedure, keeping thirds just while shaving bits off each fifth. Meantone proved so successful that, according to Alexander J. Ellis and others, it remained the dominant form of tuning through the 1840s. In between the 1500s and the 1840s, many different peculiar variants of meantone were tried. Example: an organ at Bucksburg, build around 1615, boasts 14 keys per octave. Handel's harpsichord also uses 14 keys to the octave. I have pictures in my files of many peculiar-looking keyboards which have as many as three tiers of keys--one set of ordinary white keys, a second set of black keys with some extra smaller keys *in between* B and C, and a third tier of keys, also blac keys, which reproduce the conventional black keys but translated by a comma up. Mersenne's Harmonie Universelle is full of such illustrations, but many such keyboards were actually built. Between 1500 and 1800 there was no such thing as "a standard keyboard instrument keyboard"--there were a lot of different types of keyboards, since all musical instruments throughout that period were hand-made. Such extended meantone keyboards flourished during the 17th and 18th century, a period when standardization was not the norm, and when musical tuning--like spelling!-- was considered a matter of individual taste within the overall limits of the meantone system. (It's important to remember that because meantone is a general method in which fifths are altered to preserve just thirds, there are *many* different flavors of meantone. 1/3 comma, 1/4-comma, 1/6 comma, 1/11 comma--known as 12-TET--and variants such as the irregular circulating temperaments of Marpurg and Werckmeister and Kirnberger.) The next great technological leap was made by Henry Maudslay, who worked at the smithy in Woolwich Royal Arsenal in the early late 1700s. Joseph Brahma, an entrepeneur who wanted to build an unpickable lock to cash in on a highly-publicized series of robberies in London, hired Maudslay as an apprentice locksmith. By 1797, Maudslay asked for a raise of thirty shillings a week (to support his wife and children) and Brahma refused, so Maudslay walked out and started his own workshop on Oxford street in London. Maudslay's first product was a new lathe he had designed. A lathe is basically a machine which uses a screw as a moving base for a knife; the knife can cut wood, or if made of tempered steel, iron or copper. The 1800 Maudslay lathe was far larger than any of its predecessors (which were mainly used for ornamental work on small gewgaws) and his sliding tool-rest was perfectly mounted on accurately planed triangular bars. Because Maudslay was a fanatic for accuracy, he built his lathes to extraordinarily fine tolerances for the era; but the big suprise was not that Maudslay's lathe could turn out more accurate work faster than any other lathe. The real shock came when people realized that they could use Maudslay lathes to machine extremely accurate and regular screws and bars for use in *other* lathes, which in turn could produce *other* machine tools... Starting with extremely accurate screws, it is possible to build a huge variety of precision machine tools. These tools in turn make possible the creation of even more precise machine tools. The process builds on itself in much the same way as the development of ever-more-powerful silicon chips has led to silicon compilers which in turn allow the construction of even more powerful computer chips by automated methods. The end result of Maudslay's lathe was that woodworking, metalworking, manufacture, toolmaking, and factories were all revolutionized. Maudslay's lathe changed the nature of warfare and it made Britain the greatest sea power in the world. It also made possible the modern orchestra and the modern piano. How so? Napoleonic warfare depended on the fact that rifles were inaccurate. They were inaccurate because there was no way to rifle barrels with precise accuracy or to turn out standardized gun parts with high precision at high speed. This meant that if you shot at an enemy more than a few score yards away, your shot probably wouldn't hit. So Napoleonic warfare depended on masses of infantry marching in lockstep toward one another until they got close enough to mow each other down. Britain became a great sea power when it built and equipped enough ships to rule the seas; but this wasn't possible without turning out more than 1400 block-and-tackle units to haul sails up and down *on each and every ship* (and that's only on 3rd-class ships. First-line ships used > 2000 blocks!). These blocks and winches and pulleys were made of wood by hand. There weren't enough carpenters in Britain (or in Europe) for all the blocks the British navy needed, and you couldn't run a ship without 'em. Marc Isambard Brunel came to Maudslay in 1800 with an idea to turn out these blocks for the Royal Navy using his new lathe; by 1808, the first large-scale mass production facility in the world, Maudslay's factory, was turning them out by the truckload. To string a piano you need huge amounts of wire, and--even more important--you need precision machines to build the die through to draw the wire, and more precision machines to loop the wire at the ends, and even *more* precision machines to wind the lower strings. Maudslay's lathes made it possible to build such precision machinery, and as a result the piano rapidly evolved from a relatively thin-voiced instrument strung at low tension in the 1830s to a robust instrument with three wires per note at high tension and wound strings on the lower octaves by the 1880s--all due to the tidal wave of change produced in manufacturing by Madslay's lathe. Woodwind instrument had always been nortoriously dicey in their intonation, in large part due to the problems of precisely boring amd machining wood (essentially the same problem as rifling a musket barrel). By the 1880s woodwinds had reached high standards of precision (though they still depended crucially on those temperamental reeds). Moreover, woodwinds plummeted in price along with brass instruments as precision machine tools proliferated. The valves of brass instrument benefited most of all from Maudslay's lathe because of the precision tools built to bend and seal them. Eventually, wire strings became so common that they replaced gut strings in the string instruments, leading to the godawful screeching-train sound of modern string instruments and a corresponding increase in sheer volume (and a precipitous drop in listenability--the average violin solo noawdays sounds like a cat being castrated). -- The upshot of these precision machine tools was the 12 tone equal tempered scale. Musical instruments built by mass production could not be economically individualized so as to accomodate dozens of different meantone variants. To make money turning out modern musical instruments, you must *standardize*--all exactly alike. When you build only one or two harpischords per year, you can easliy afford to use exotic three-tier keyboards fitted to special custom meantone tuning schemes... but when you build 100 pianos a year you must settle on a single rigid standard keyboard. As soon as musical instruments became mass-market commodities, their tuning also had to be standardized to make a profit for the manufacturer. The result--as Ivor Darreg pointed out for many years--was that 12-TET was foisted on the musical world by musical instrument manufacturers, rather than by musical theorists, performers, or composers. As Lou Harrison has pointed out, the advantages of 12-tet are "almost entirely economic." In fact Ellis reports that meantone "sounds by far the sweetest" of all the intonations he tried; clearly *technology* forced 12 equal tones on musicians, and they went along *reluctantly.* With the advent of the digitial synthesizer the iron fist of 12 made itself manifest in the velvet glove of digital technology. As Ivor pointed out, once people started to hear pure unadulterated exactly precise 12, they fled from it in droves. Pianos and string instruments strayed gracefully from 12, especially in the upper and lower registers-- the octaves on a piano are systematically stretched, and vioinists tend to bend pitches whenever they possibly can. But with the earliest digital synthesizers, there was no choice--the intonation was burned into the ROMs and listeners and composers and performers were stuck with pure perfect 12. And the beats drove them crazy, so they slathered on hockey-rink reverb, they used phase shifting and multitrack tape and echo... And as soon as retunable synths appeared, a mass exodus from 12 began in earnest. Today we're in the middle of that intonational diaspora. It has been created and supported by the technology used in our instruments. As computers move ever closer to real-time MIDI generation of Csound-type timbres, it will become easier and easier to specify with precision *both* tuning and timbre--and to control the interaction of the two. This will produce the next revolution in tuning, probably within the next generation or two, based on the ideas of William Sethares, John R. Pierce, Jean Clause Risset, J. M. Geary and James Dashow. Hot diggity! --mclaren
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I enjoyed Brian's posts on tuning and technology, but I have an honest question:
>The upshot of these precision machine tools >was the 12 tone equal tempered scale. Musical >instruments built by mass production could not >be economically individualized so as to accomodate >dozens of different meantone variants. To make >money turning out modern musical instruments, >you must *standardize*--all exactly alike. When you >build only one or two harpischords per year, you >can easliy afford to use exotic three-tier keyboards >fitted to special custom meantone tuning schemes... >but when you build 100 pianos a year you must >settle on a single rigid standard keyboard.
I can understand how this change enforced a 12-pitch-per-octave standard keyboard, but pianos are hand-tuned, even now. The construction of a piano does not have to be changed to accomodate most historical meantone, just, or well-tempered tunings, as long as they don't stray radically from a 12TET median. Granted, modern high-tension piano strings cannot be safely sharpened more than a semitone or so (unlike low-tension harpsichords), but the difference between 12TET pitches and those of these other tunings is usually no more than about 20 cents. In fact, given that, without electronic help, 12TET is generally much more time-consuming to tune than 1/4-meantone (to take an obvious example), one would think that the capitalist piano manufacturers would have *avoided* it.
Bill
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From: mclaren Subject: mystery package -- Recently a mystery package arrived in my mailbox. Expecting a mail bomb from the Unatuner, imagine my surprise to discover.... ..That the parcel contained the very nearly complete text of "acoustique musicale," a French book on xenharmonics and acoustics from the 1950s. No return address. No letter inside. On a scale of 1 to 11, my puzzlement at this package scored somewhere above 11. Examination of the postmark, however, revealed that the xenharmonic cipher who sent this little gem was in fact Kami Rousseau. The book turns out to be an astoundingly rare item: the internal collection of the CNRS titled "Acoustique Musicale," from 1959. This is treasure, containing worthwhile articles which have not appeared anywhere else. Thanks, Kami! -- The contents of this rare volume are so interesting that it seemed worthwhile to post my alleged and highly risible "translation" of the more important articles. (One at a time. One now, others later) The book contains articles by Jacques Chailley, M. Barkechli, Adriaan Fokker, Jacques Brillouin, R. Tanner, Robert Dussaut, P. Riety and Fritz Winckel. Chailley was a Sorbonne professor and director of the Institute of Musicology of Paris; Winckel was a pioneer psychoacoustician; Fokker rediscovered 31-tet and founded the Netherlands Huyghens-Fokker institute; R. Tanner was attached to the C.R.S.I.M. in Marseille and did interesting work on acoustics and tuning; Barkechli was the director-general for arts in Iran during the reign of the Shah, and was one of the few writers in the 1950s to discuss the contributions of Zalzal, Farabi and other Medieval arabic scholars to the development of modern intonation. -- N.B.: Forum subscribers are warned that Your Humble E-Mail Correspondent never took a course in French. So the many ludicrous errorsin the following muttonheaded "translation" are strictly *MY* fault, not the author's. -- The first article is "The dynamism of scales and consonances in the principal acoustical systems and its influence on the development of music" by Jacques Chailley. This is the same Chailley who wrote the excellent "40,000 Years of Music" in 1964, one of the best books on music history, period. "Of the various acoustic systems which involve physical considerations in some way, three stand out in western musical practice. Up to the 16th century, musical practice was primarily Pythagorean; from the 16th to the 18th century, it was based on Zarlino's work; and from that era to the present, on 12-tone equal temperament. "I. The origins of the Pythagorean intonation are empirical. (This is 100% backwards from the reality; Aristoxenos, the chief intonational empiricist of ancient times, vehemently disagreed with the Pythagoreans and make considerable light of their reliance on the sacred tetraktys as the source of all music -- but then, no doubt my "translation" is hog-wild --mclaren) Clearly there's no truth to the tale of Pythagoras hearing blacksmith's hammers (John Chalmers has pointed this out, also why. For one thing, the anvil would ring and not the hammers just as the clapper does not ring rather than the bell. For another thing, vibrating masses follow a different law of musical ratios than vibrating strings-- mclaren). Instead he established the relationship between the size of the interval and the length of string. Pythagoras deduced that the octave, the fifth and the fourth were the basis of all existing music. (Actually the Pythagoreans worshipped a numerological pyramid made of the number 1, 2, 3, and 4, called the tetraktys. M. Chailley's statement is not quite accurate, but close. Either he has confused the ecstatic 3-worship of Holy Trinity-influenced Medieval music theorists like Jean de Muris with Pythaogras' writings, or my ludicrous "translation" is to blame -- mclaren) Pythagoras had no contact with other cultures which did not use such intervals--such as the American Indians. "Concerning the list of resonances, Pythagoreans started their investigation at the second and stopped at the fourth harmonic. They ignored, evidently, the harmonic principle discovered during the 17th century, namely that of the relationship between consecutive harmonics which transformed simultaneous consonances into a posteriori operation. (Hard to see what he's getting at here. Probably my nonexistent French is bamboozling me. --mclaren) Superparticularity was considered the most important relationship, not the proximity of the sounds in a list of harmonics--which was ignored when the first frequencies were calculated. (I've probably got it scrambled. The gist seems to be that absolute frequencies are not important but rather their relationships--which is to say, ratios, and that superparticular ratios are considered the most important. --mclaren) And so the 9/8 interval is not defined as the ratio twixt harmonics 8 and 9, but the difference betwene the 3/2 fifth and the 4/3 fourth. There was no consideration of the 5/4 "natural" third, although it was superparticular, because the Pythagoreans stopped their investigations at harmonic 4. "In arresting his observations at the number 4, Pythagoras conformed to the most primitve classification of consonance: category1 (unison, ocrtave) represents perfect consonance, while category 2 (fifth, fourth) consists of imperfect consonances. In the melodic art of music, this results in a scale whose structure in the sound-universe of Pythagorean theory is based exclusively on the cycle of fifths: (Here M. Chailley gives an unfortunately misleading 5-line staff with 7 musical pitches notated as the conventional 12-TET notes. The naive reader might be deceived by this diagram into imagining that the final B in M. Chailley's diagram--starting pitch F, ending pitch after 6 just 3/2s B-- corresponds to the familiar B on the piano keyboard, ratio 2^[6/12] = 1.41414... or 600 cents. In fact, in the Pythagorean tuning this pitch pitch is not the familiar B above F but a pitch above F = (3/2)^6 = 11.390625 = 11.390625/8 = 611.73 cents. The difference between this "B" and the B on the piano keyboard is clearly audible. 12 cents is not a subtle or indetectable interval. The point here is that Mssr. Chailley's diagram entirely leaves out the fact that in a Pythagorean tuning the pitches rise by 1.995 cents for each note prdouced by a leap of a just perfect fifth as compared to 12-tet. After 6 notes this adds up to 6*1.995 cents = about 12 cents, a non-trivial difference. --mclaren) "The system is fundamentally a succession of fifths producing 1, 2 and eventually all 7 of the notes of the diatonic scale. "The cycle stops at 7 notes. Chromaticism becomes a question of physics in the continuation of the cycle of just perfect fifths, rather than a matter of convention and musical language. "And so Pythagorean intonation is perfectly suited to melody, and C-E-G-C' are perfectly in tune. In the middle ages western music was melodic and Pythagorean tuning was popular, but did not last beyond the 16th century. The intonation was prediminantly minor, since in hexatonic Pythgorean tuning, the minor Pythagorean third is much more a point of acoustic rest than the Pythagorean major third, and the pentatonic mode was primarily used. (The Pythagorean major third so-called is usually calculated as (3/2)^4, = 81/64 = 1.2625625 = 407.82 cents, while the Pythagorean minor third is usually calculated as the difference twixt the 9/8 and the 4/3 or 8/9*4/3 = 32/27 = 1.185185 = 294.1349 cents. -- mclaren) "As far as polyphony goes, the Pythagorean system was not favorable to the development of triadic harmony based on its fundamental intervals, since perfect consonance was restricted to only two of these. It was favorable to the development of counterpoint in independent lines, where the requirement for perfect consonance was not great: aside from the unison and octave, and the two imperfect consonanances, it was a matter of indifference in which of the two classes (fifth or fourth) the intervals fell. Practically speaking, this made for primitive polypohony, and throughout the Middle Ages polyphony was restricted to such counterpoint, in which all parts were composed so as to proceed together, rather than various lines in contrary motion. (Mssr. Chailley is alluding to fauxbourdon here, along with plainchant. In fauxbordon an upper voice duplicates the lower at the interval of a just fourth, which in plainchant duplication at the octave was allowed -- mclaren) In conclusion, the Pythagorean system had the characteristic, that the semitones were enlarged compared to the other intervals and were not considered proper consonances. The resulting tendency was for very strongly consonant intervals to sound on the fifth, the minor third and the unison, the major sixth above the octave, the minor sixth above the fifth or the fourth. "Plagal cadences were typical. As a result, Pythagorean intonation was a dynamic system, whose accentuation of the differences between intervals emphasized dissonance more than consonance. "As a result, certain pitches were often made more attractive by modification to their consonance in performance (musica falsa), and this was the primary function of chromaticism. Marchetto of Padua (in the 16th century) used the 5/4 as a chromatic alteration in this manner instead of the 81/64. "This could be considered an early Medieval use of temperament. The Pythagorean major third is a true dissonance, whose tendency toward resolution is very strong. Thus Pythagorean chromaticism represents the triumph of the large interval as one of maximum attraction. (Presumably Mssr. Chailley means here that the 407.8-cent P maj 3rd tended to resolve to the just 3/2 701.955 cent fifth. -- mclaren) "Pythagorean triadic harmony was not consonant; the P maj 3rd was constantly drawn along a line of strong attraction to the fifth. The music of the Middle Ages was characterized by primitive polyphony and strong dynamism. "II. Zarlino held a contrary view. He adopted the major third as a basic consnance, using harmonic 5 to make three fundamental consonances instead of 2. (That is, 5/4 along with 2/1 and 3/2 -- mclaren) "The result was that consonance was extended to triads, and a major third over the fundamental satisfied the requirements of proper sonority in accordance with the model of resonance. (Presumably this refers obliquely to the fact that all the members of a just 4:5:6 chord are harmonics of an unheard fundamental. Or it might simply refer to the fact that when just intonation is used, there in a noticeable increase in the resonance of chords played on instruments with strictly integer harmonics. -- mclaren) Harmony in the 16th century accreted bit by bit from counterpoint and progressively deviated from a strict adherence to consonance. The harmonic progressions did not solely rest on consonances, but did exhibit a constant relationship to a bass line. "Zarlino's system was therefore static. The chromaticism of Zarlino's system accentuated the character of individual keys. The chromatic tetrachord of the Greeks was identified through an error of orthogoraphy with a description by Boethius, instead of the intervals of Zarlino's system. (Eh? This is probably me scrambling the translation... --mclaren) "The chromaticism of Zarlino represents the triumph of the small interval. (Presumably this refers to the fact that Zarlino's theory brought thirds into music as consonances and respectable members of chords -- mclaren) "Concerning melodic construction, the advent of Zarlino's system required the modification of the concept of intonational structure. The hierarchy of the cycle of fifths must needs be finite if modulation is to be effected. Thus, based on classical ideas, Zarlino's method effected a radical transformation. "Zarlino divided consonances into three categories. Harmonic 7 did not fit into any of these; in fact, the just seventh was incompatible with the rest of 16th century theory and practice. As the seventh became more and more used in music through the 18th century, it posed grave problems as to its correct resolution: Rameau's theory dealt with this question (among others). "III. It is impossible to construct a practical system of just intonation using only the first 4 integers. (The organ builders of the 10th through 15th centuries would have been greatly surprised to hear this. In fact a tenth-century text lays out the rules in exact Pythagorean fashion: start with a pipe of whatever length and call it C, divide ito four parts and remove one-- that's low F. Divide the C pipe into three, toss out one part, and you have the fifth above C or G. And so on. Duke Philip's organ designer Henri Arnaut, around 1450, used a slightly modified Pythagorean system which concentrated the dissonance into the interval twixt B and F-sharp. Under Arnaut's system, only 4 thirds out of the 12 were consonant and the bad fifth is amazingly awful--a true wolf. Nonetheless, Arnaut's system represented a workable compromise for the period. To call a system of tuning employed on organs from the 10th through the 15th centuries "impractical" tells me Mssr. Chailley didn't do his homework here -- mclaren) "Logically, it is suitable to divide consonances into four categories, the fourth accomodating the 7th harmonic. This is not in accord with Zarlino's 3 categories of consonances. "That, incidentally, is why the 7th harmonic was never accepted as a consonance in western music. (Mssr. Chailley may be barking up the wrong tree here--the 7th was never accepted as a consonance because the interval between harmonic 7 and harmonic 6 is the first interval in successive members of the harmonic series which falls within the critical band. The reason is psychoacoustic, not historical. However, my alleged and preposterous "translation" might well be the culprit instead of M. Chailley -- mclaren) "The sounding of the chord C-E-G-B creates a dissonance which fails to resolve. The musican, in assimilating harmonic 7, creates attractive new intervals but cannot resolve these chords within the conventional western system. The 7th harmonic does not correspond to any degree in the western scale; moreover, the resolution of seventh chords has contributed to the tyranny of the dominant chord. (vii usually resolves to V in classical harmony -- mclaren) In classical tonal music, the just seventh cannot coexist with usual melodies, and is only found as a suggestion in the traditional seventh chords. "IV. Pythagorean intonation is dynamic, while Zarlino's just triadic harmonic intonation is static. Equal temperament is neither one nor the other. It is a compromise, whose intervals do not partake entirely of either of these systems, and thus is a somewhat neutral system whose employment was spurred by the need to find a correct middle ground between Pythagorean intonation's excellence for melody and Zarlino's just intonation system's excellence in harmony. Equal temperament was not imposed by fiat, but arose from the nature of the music being made. "The result is a certain musical ambiguity; the possibilitity that a given pitch may be taken in more than one sense. (Das Wohltempierte Klavier of Bach is an example.) (Well, Mssr. Chailley has fallen into the trap of assuming Bach wrote in 12-tet, but we must grant him parole for that insofar as he was writing around 1958. People weren't nearly as aware of the use of well temperament in the 17t and 18th century back in the 1950s as they are today, largely due to the efforts of pioneers like Johnny Reinhard--whose remarkable yearly Christmas programs of well-tempered Bach have detwelvulated ears far and wide -- mclaren) "Equal temperament greatly facilitated rapid modulation (for example, listen to Bach's Kleine Harmonisches Lanyrinth for organ) and allowed the employment of modern harmonies. (Presumably Mssr. Chailley refers also to the use of diminished, augmented and seventh chords, which certainly can be found in profusion in the music of Bach -- mclaren) "Equal temperament formed the character of the classical epoch of music. (Alexander John Ellis disputes this, along with Patrizio Barbieri. Both these scholars cite sources to prove that meantone survived on pianos into the early 1840s, while in some parts of Europe--Italy, for instance--meantone was used by orchestras into the 1890s -- mclaren) "By the end of the 19th century, musicians had begun to explore extremes of ambiguity. The result was the decadence of fin-de-sicle tonality. This was a neutral system: it was opposed to firm tonality. Such departure from strict tonality led to an increasing dissolution of the sense of key (for example, Wagner, Liszt, Debussy). This ambiguity led to an ensuing agressive negation of tonality (Schoenberg). The result was that any combination of notes was permitted. "Concerning melodic structure, temperament proceeded in the same way. Temperament in and of itself was not opposed to the continuation of classical thematicism based on the C-E-G triad. Moreover, with the rediscovery and reintroduction of folk melodies around the end of the 19th century, ancient melodic structures based on the cycle of pure fifths revived in popularity. And so some other composers (Debussy, Bartok, Stravinsky, etc.) renewed the thematic structure of music by using harmonies based on primitive categories of consonance divided into only 2 classes, highly consonant, and highly dissonant. (This is an interesting point and one which I've not seen made before. --mclaren) "To conclude, equal temperament provided the necessary conditions (but not sufficient conditions) for dodecaphonic music. (12-tone serialism, presumably -- mclaren) Temperament was definitely an acoustic compromise and marked the starting point of theoretical department from historical precendents. Once introduced, it was not possible to retain the resonance principle (i.e., Rameau's doctrine that a major chord is based on integer multiples of an unheard fundamental -- mclaren) and thus there was successively greater departure from Pythagorean models. In the absence of consonances typical of that system, sounds tends to devolve into chord-complexes without acoustical rationale, and this led to new concepts of musical organization (musique concrete, electronic music, etc.) as well as serial music (Boulez, Barraque, Stockhausen, etc.) This evolution would have been impossible without the initial confusion introduced by equal temperament. CONCLUSION "The historical change in music from acoustic systems to different ones non-acoustic in nature was not an accident, but a continuation of historical practice which began with the study of acoustical phenomena. "The essential elements of this evolution were in place when a language of music and a method of writing down music emerged." M. Chailley, circa 1958 (?) (There is no date visible anywhere in the xerox which was mailed to me, other than circumstantial evidence from the dates of the citations. The latest citations appear to be 1957, so presumably "Acoustique Musicale" dates from 1958-1960 or thereabouts.) Thanks again, Kami. Sorry about the ludicrously bad alleged "translation" but, hey...to me, "Prelude a l'apres midi d'une faun" means "Prelude to an after ski dune faun.") --mclaren
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> I can understand how this change enforced a 12-pitch-per-octave standard > keyboard, but pianos are hand-tuned, even now. The construction of a piano > does not have to be changed to accomodate most historical meantone, just, > or well-tempered tunings, as long as they don't stray radically from a > 12TET median.
I believe that what Brian is refering to is that with non-ETs, you either need, or will want anyway, more steps per octave, and physical mechanisms of previous centuries put big limits on how many more steps per octave you can add beyond 12.
However, when you force the circle of fifths to close at 12, there is less impetus to even wonder about other pitches, because it is a complete system in itself, and a useful one at that. Meantone temperaments are not closed at 12 steps per octave.
Also, I'm told second-hand that when you tune the strings of a piano such that the tensions of adjacent keys vary much from one another, they tend to go out of tune quickly. That makes ETs easier to realize on piano even if you do stick with 12-tones/octave.
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> It is the bell, not the clapper, which produces a tone, and the pitch of > the tone is not determined by the mass of the clapper but by the mass and > shape of the bell.
I realize that this isn't ultimately all that important, but I may as well point out that this statement is both exactly correct and exactly incorrect. The amount of momentum with which you hit a bell (or most any other solid object) does affect its perceived pitch. That, however, only to the extent that how hard and where you strike it affects the relative volumes of the object's nonharmonic partials.
As another aside, how hard you bow or blow a largely-harmonic instrument, can have fairly significant effects upon the quantitative and qualitative pitch of the resulting tone. That is mostly due to imperfect elasticities of strings and reeds and such.
But Brian's statement is still essentially correct; the size of the hammer has FAR LESS effect upon the pitches of the partials than the dimensions of the bell itself.
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nFrom: mclaren Subject: arcana & incunabula -- No one seems to have noticed or remarked that Mr. Fortuin has accomplished something that has the potential to utterly revolutionize microtonality. His 2-D generalized MIDI keyboard controller is nearly identical in design to several of Erv Wilson's hexagonal keyboard grids, and is the single finest generalized keyboard extant for MIDI synths. In fact... it is the ONLY generalized keyboard extant for MIDI synths (!) The profound importance of this breakthrough cannot be underestimated. As Paul Rapoport has sagely observed, "[the fact] that ET's have not been used more widely despite the ability of most synthesizers to produce them may be because playing them on a keyboard of the familiar design [7 white keys, 5 black keys, standard piano keyboard] is nearly impossible. [Rapoport, P., "The Structural Relationship of Fifths and Thirds in Equal Temperaments," J. Mus. Theory, 1993, pg. 352] I urge Mr. Fortuin in the strongest possible terms to either start some sort of company that makes available these generalized hexagonal-key MIDI keyboards to xenharmonists who want them for whatever you want to charge, or a kit, or technical details, or whatever you wish. But the vast importance of this hex key 2-D keyboard with a Bosanquet layout is hard to adequately describe. This is what we've been waiting for. This is what we all need. I've asked Gary Morrison to design and build and market a 2-D generalized MIDI keyboard, and he has displayed not the slightest interest. And the lack of such a generalized 2-D MIDI keyboard is holding back the progress of microtonality. This, because the primary advantage of such a 2-D Bosanquet-type generalized MIDI klavier is that it will permit large numbers of equal temperaments to be fingered consistently and without difficulty. This is *vital* to the progress of microtonality. Please think about working with STEIM or licensing their technology to make your clavette generalized MIDI Bosanquet keyboard available to a wider public, Mr. Fortuin. Nota bene: you might be surprised to learn that the essential design of this keyboard was invented & patented by Hermann Pedtke in Germany in 1932(!) --mclaren
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From: mclaren Subject: Will Grant's interesting post -- In topic 2 of Digest 810, Will Grant answered my statement that "Lou Harrison has not explained how to reconcile these facts [that is, the prevalence of tunings which cannot be explained easily in terms of small integer ratios in other cultures] with the notion that just intonation forms the basis of world music." Will Grant pointed out that "an arbitrary octave of 1150 cents does not preclude reference to a just standard." Will's counter-argument is that "the music I've listened to from Central Africa...relies on a 'gamut'... of a major third..." And that "tetrachords carry inevitably a potential toward modulation... Nevertheless, sharping thirds can be pleasant. (..) The central African musics aren't concerned about melodic modulatory implications... Therefore I do not see that the specific use of wide octaves can be used to discredit the theoretical notion of a just standard." [Will Grant] Will makes some excellent points, with considerable insight. First, Will G. is certainly right that in many parts of Africa the overall "gamut" of pitch is somewhere in the neighborhood of a third. This is not simply based on my listening, but on the research printed in the Journal of Ethnomusicology, etc., the bulk of which supports Will Grant's statement--for *many* African musics. However, this is not the case for *all* musical traditions in Africa, and may not be the case for a majority. I don't know enough about African music to decide whether a majority of the cultures use a gamut of a third. However, I do know of several specific exceptions to that rule--and where there are several excpetions to a general ethnomuiscological "rule," experience has taught me that there are apt to be many more. The "weeping song" of the Gisalo, if memory serves, exceeds the compass of a third by a considerable amount, and the ugubhu is typically played using harmonics up to 7. Second: While Will Grant's argument is ingenious and very well thought out, it does not appear to apply to the example cited in my post. Permit me to quote the full text of my original citation: "This definition is refused by the practices of these musicians, who tune their xylophones using adjacent intervals, step by step. Our experimentation verified that 'perfect' consonances are not a consituent of Central African concept of the scale. These musicians do not judge a strict octave (1200 cents) to be better than a large major seventh (1150 cents) in any rgister, probably because of the roughness it creates on the octaves that are always played simultaneously with double sticks in each hand." [Voisin, Frederic, "Musical Scales in Central Africa and Java: Modeling by Synthesis," Leonardo Music Journal, Vol. 4, pp. 85-90, 1994] This specific quote appears to crush most of Will Grant's objections. On the other hand, it's possible that I've misunderstood the text. In any case Will might want to study the article in question in detail. Others examples (some outside Africa): The panpipes of the 'Are-'are of the Solomon Islands are tuned in 7 equal-tempered tones to the octave which cannot be understood in terms of the harmonic series (unless, of course, there's something I've overlooked or not taken account of--always possible); the same seems to be true of the xylophones of the Kwaiker indians of central Mexico and Guatamala. The Burmese oboe-like instruments, the drums of the Akan in West Africa, and much of the vocal music of the Kaluli of highland New Guinea and other music from sub-Saharan Africa all seem to use pitches which systematically avoid just ratios. Of course the most spectacularly non-just non-equal-tempered musical traditions are those of Bali and Java, along with Thailand. No one has succeeded in explaining these musical traditions in terms of small integer ratios, to the best of my knowledge, and so my case seems to stand. However, it's quite possible I've made some silly error or failed to see some crucial point. Perhaps Will Grant can show me what I've overlooked. --mclaren
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From: mclaren Subject: non-octave scales and octave equivalence -- With typical insight, Paul Erlich made a particularly interesting comment about non-octave scales in topic 6 of digest 797. He wrote: "The point is that if a note comes close enough to an octave or a multiple octave, it will sound equivalent, especially in the case of harmonic partials. For example, an interval of 33 Pierce steps exhibits equivalence, even though it is a very different pitch class in the tritave scheme. Even when the even partials are removed, I believe the virtual pitch sensation is not very octave-specific." My ears agree with Paul Erlich's here. Removing odd or even partials doesn't seem to affect my perception of the Bohlen-Pierce scale. However, Paul E. did not mention whether he was talking about "an interval of 33 Pierce steps" *melodically* or *harmonically.* That is, sounding the interval as a vertical dyad or as two sequential notes one after the other. Now, my experience is that this makes a *huge* difference in the perception of octave equivalence in non-octave scales. My ears hear sequential (melodic) intervals as being octave equivalent even if they are significantly off from the octave--upwards of 30 or 40 cents in many cases, especially if the interval is a multiple of an octave--say, 2 octaves, 3 octaves, etc. However, the range of detuning within which my ears will accept an interval as octave equivalent is much smaller when the interval is a vertical dyad (harmonic): somewhere in the range of 0-18 cents. As a concrete example, take the Bohlen-Pierce scale. Play melodically the interval of 8 scale steps; if you play the melodic interval reasonably quickly, you'll find that your ear accepts it as a melodic octave. But if you sound that 8-step interval as a vertical dyad, it will not sound like an octave at all since the interval is 1170.4338 cents, outside the acceptable vertical range for octave equivalence (except at very low fundamental frequencies). This brings up an interesting point with regard to non-octave scales: as most of you know, Enrique Moreno has a very different conception of non-octave scales than Gary Morrison or Your Humble E-Mail Correspondent. Enrique believes that it is pointless and meaningless to try to assign to the intervals of non-octave scales familiar categories such as "third" or "fifth" or "octave." Instead, Enrique suggests that we accept the intervals of non-octave scales on their own merits, rather than misguidedly trying to jam them into familiar but conceptually and musically limiting categories. This view has merit. It recognizes the fact that non-octave scales sound different in a basic way from octave = 2.0 scales; Gary Morrison has described non-octave scales as sounding like "the musical equivalent of thick rich chocolate milk shakes" and this is true--there's something unutterably exotic and gorgeously alien about most non-octave scales. They all share a very sultry foreign "sound" which renders, say, the 12th root of 3, the 15th root of 3 and the 13thr oot of 3 and the 25th root of 5 and the 37th root of 31 much more akin to one another in "sound" or what Ivor Darreg called "mood" than any trivial considerations of audible octave equivalence. On the other hand, there are problems with Enrique's view of non-octave scale. For one thing, there exist infinitely many non-octave scales which are audibly identical to familiar octave = 2.0 divisions of the octave. For example: I defy anyone to tell the difference audibly between 12-TET and the 51st root of 19, or the 105th root of 431, or the 114th root of 727, the 122nd root of 1153, or the 126th root of 1453. THe difference between a 2/1 and the equivalent interval in each of these "non-octave" scales is less than 1/3 cent-- you *cannot* hear the difference between these intonations and 12. There exist infinitely many non-octave scales audibly identical (not close, *identical* to the ears, with a 2/1 less than 0.1 cents off from 1200 cents) to 13-TET, 14-TET, 15-TET, and so on. This being the case, we are forced to recognize that for a significant sub-class of non-octave Nth root of K scales, there is *no audible difference whatsoever* between these and some N-TET octave = 2.0 scale. This being the case, it would obviously be perverse in a tuning audibly identical to 12-TET to try to describe the intervals in exotic Nth root of K terms rather than in terms of the familiar fifth, major and minor third, fourth, major and minor second, and so on. Thus the situation for non-octave scales is more complicated than anyone has mentioned to date. On the one hand, listeners will tend to hear intervals in these scales *very* differently melodically than harmonically if the interval is slightly off from a familiar interval. On the other hand, there exist a large class of non-octave scales which sound audibly *identical* to familiar dvisions of the octave. Lastly, there's the question: In a given Nth root of K non-octave scale, what is the most consonant interval? That is, what is the interval which takes the musical and acoustic place of the 2:1 octave in ordinary divisions of the octave with harmonic series timbres? -- There is no simple answer to this question. A superficial answer is: obviously, if we're talking about the Nth root of K, then K is the most consonant interval in all cases. This is sometimes true, and sometimes clearly false. In the 13th root of 3, the 3:1 ratio is clearly the primary consonant interval. It functions musically in the same way that a 2:1 does. If you "double" pitches at an interval of 13 scale steps in the 13th root of 3, you'll get much the same result as when you double pitches at an interval of 12 scale steps in 12/oct. In the 21st root of 17, however, the interval of 21 scale steps is not nearly as great a point of acoustic rest as the interval of 3 scale steps. Moreover, all Ks are not created equal. Intervals which are low members of the harmonic series multplied by small integers tend to sound more consonant than Ks which are high members of the harmonic series. Thus , an interval of 17:1 sounds less consonant than 6:1 since 6:1 is 3:1 times 2, while 17 is relatively far up the harmonic series. Even this statement must be qualified, for the harmonic series exhibits the property that consonance decreases as one climbs the harmonic series, then suddenly it begins to increase as one climbs further, then consonance decreases again, then it suddenly increases, and so on. For example: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 are highly consonant. 7 is less so, intermediate in fact between consonance and dissonance; 8, 9, 10 are highly consonant, 11 is much less consonant; 12 is highly consonant; 13 is relatively dissonant; 14, as a multple of 7, is intermediate in consonance; 15, 16 are highly consonant; 17 is relatively dissonant; 18 is highly consonant; 19 is quite consonant, ditto 20 and 21; but 22 and 23 are relatively dissonant; 24, 25 are highly consonant; 26 is dissonant, 27 is extremely consonant; 28 intermediate; 29 is dissonant...and so on. Thus the particular K is question must be considered, in addition to the issue of whether the Nth root of K scale contains an interval interval within the N:1 span that sounds more consonant than N:1. One last point is that the absolute size of the musical interval in question is very important. Paul Erlich mentioned that an interval of 33 scale-steps of the Bohlen-Pierce scale sounds like an interval of 4 octaves. However, this interval comes out to 4828.0396 cents, 28 cents away from 4 octaves. The ear doesn't tend to notice this discrepancy for very large intervals because the two notes are so greatly separated from one another than there is little opportunity for the harmonics of the lower and the upper note to beat with one another. Most acoustic timbres exhibit very little energy above the 16th harmonic, and the 16th harmonic is the fundamental of a pitch 4 octaves above the base note of a dyad. Thus, while an interval of 33 scale steps in the Bohlen-Pierce scale is about as far away from the octave as an interval of 8 scale steps (28.039 cents for the former as opposed to 29.567 cents for the latter), 8 scale-steps in the 13th root of 3 sounds very far from octave equivalence while 33 scale-steps sounds reasonably close to octave equivalence because many harmonics of both notes fall within the critical band in the case of the 8-step interval while almost no harmonics of both notes fall within the same critical band in the case of the 33-step interval. In short, octave equivalence and the question of which intervals will most tend to function and sound as points of acoustic and musical rest in intervals formed from the notes of non-octave scales are issues more complex than anyone on this forum appears to have suggested. -- Paul Erlich goes on to write that "In the case of inharmonic partials, octave equivalence may play less of a role, but still exists, and is less demanding as to intonation." Both my experiments with additive synthesis inharmonic timbres in Csound and William Sethares' experiments with resynthesized Fourier-analyzed timbres with stretched partials strongly contradict this statement. In particular William Sethares has a set of instrument timbres resynthesized with all harmonics stretched so that the octave is a ratio of 2.1 instead of 2.0, etc. Playing a vertical octave dyad with such timbres produces unbearable dissonance; but playing a vertical octave whose ratio is 2.1 rather than 2.0 produces the familiar sensation of octave equivalence. So the evidence *strongly* indicates that 2:1 octave equivalence goes away when the timbre becomes inharmonic, and this is confirmed by William Sethares' mathematical procedure for finding scale pitches from an inharmonic timbre. --mclaren
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From: mclaren Subject: the future of microtonality -- While watching a particularly magnificent sunset with Maxfield Parrish clouds this evening, it occurred to me how far we've come--and how much there remains to do. The history of intonation can be divided into five eras. The first era, lasting roughly 15,000 years, began when nomadic hunters first built musical instruments. Since bone flutes have been discovered in caves coeval with Neolithic stone tools from 15,000 years ago, it's clear that the act of building musical instruments predates the discovery of writing. Thus xenharmonics is an earlier and more basic activity than reading and writing, and our pre-school curriculum should be changed from the "three Rs" to the "three Xs." (Xenharmonic instrument building, Xenharmonic music-making, and Xenharmonic 'Rithmetic. JI is a superb way to teach fractions because you can *hear* them.) In the Trois Freres cave in Frances there is a clear depiction of a performer using a mouth bow (also called a Jaws Harp), and since none of these instruments use 12-tone equal temperament it's also clear that microtonality has been actively practiced for at least 15,000 years, and probably longer. The second era of intonation was inaugurated by John Napier with his discovery of logarithms in the mid-16th century. There's no mystery why the late 16th century witnessed such a remarkable explosion of interest in different tuning systems-- "Napier's bones" had as vast an impact on composers and music theorists of the late 16th century as computers have had on composers and music theorists of the late 20th century. Vicentino's and Huyghens' advocacy of 31-TET and Titelouz's, and Salinas' interest in 19-TET precisely follow the introduction of logarithms which for the first time allowed music theorists to easily calculate added or subtracted musical intervals. (I mean the 16th century Salinas, not J.A.M. Salinas here!) The third era of microtonality was ushered in by John Henry Maudslay's 1843 invention of the modern lathe--which led immediately to modern machine tools, precise and reliably machined tolerances, and the standardization of machined parts. Woodwind instruments and keyboard instruments could not be turned out at simultaneously low cost and high intonational accuracy prior to the Maudsley lathe. Even brass instruments and guitars were influenced by modern precision machine tools: the equipment used to bent and shape the tubes of which brass instruments are made and the equipment used to make wound guitar strings has since the 1840s been entirely machined by modern precision machine tools. (The valves of trumpets owe a particular debt to this technology.) To a large extent, Maudslay's lathe led to the standardization of 12-TET in the western world and to the rule of the modern orchestra as the supreme ideal of western music. And of course large orchestras with complete families of all instruments were only possible once the woodwinds and brass instruments and the piano had been made intonationally accurate by the Maudsley lathe & its progeny. (This is why earlier "orchestras" uses primarily stringed instruments with a few valveless brass instruments.) The fourth era of microtonality was inaugurated in 1959 by Max Mathews' MUSIC I through IV computer programs. All current commercial digital synthesizers are essentially hard-wired subsets of the Mathews MUSIC N paradigm, with special-purpose ICs which allow sounds to be calculated in real time when the keys are pressed. The fifth era of microtonality dawned when the first fully retunable digital synthesizers appeared: the DX7II family in 1987. This was the first time it was easily possible to explore an unlimited number of different tunings using many simultaneous polyphonic notes with a large pallette of different timbres. -- It's worth a thought or two. Although we've come far, we're still at the beginning of the journey. The most recent advance in intonation only came 9 years ago, when for the first time in human history it was possible to rapidly switch between different tunings while playing enough simultaneous notes on an instrument cheap enough for anyone to afford in a large enough gamut of timbres to get a reasonable idea of what each intonation sounds like both harmonically and melodically. 9 years! That's all! Retunable MIDI synthesizers offer an almost unbelievable breakthrough for the microtonal composer. Prior to 1987, composers either had to settle for a very limited timbral range (retunable analog Moog-type synthesizers) or a very small number of simultaneous notes (home-built non-12 guitars, metallophones, etc.) or a fabulously expensive computer music set-up (prior to the mid-1980s most computer music facilities were based around DEC minicomputers costing a quarter of a million dollars each --or more. Prior to 1980, no privately owned single-user high-quality 16-bit computer music facility existed anywhere in the world). While we've come far, it's sobering to realize that this latest breakthrough is only 9 years old. To put it another way, 9.5 years ago, if you wanted to hear the sound of a string orchestra playing in 27-tone equal temperament or Partch's monophonic fabric or the free-free metal bar scale, you would have had to get a doctorate at an elite computer music institution. Only grad students at a few elite schools had access to the kind of computer power that would allow realization of xenharmonic music with a large number of different timbres and a large array of different tunings. Your other choice would have been to bury yourself in sawdust (like Partch) for 20 years to produce a set of xenharmonic instruments; but this still meant confining yourself to a single tuning system. If you wanted to hear many different tunings played on many different instruments so as to compare the "sound" of each intonation, prior to 1987 you either had to be lucky enough to work as a grad student at IRCAM or Stanford or Princeton or Simon Fraser University or the U. of Toronto or Columbia or one or two other places. -- In retrospect, our progress has been staggering. For 15,000 years, stasis--hand-built instruments, tuning by ear. Suddenly, logarithmic calculation of musical intervals; then, 100 years later, high-speed digital computers. 30 years later, inexpensive special-purpose digital computers with built-in tuning tables (these special-purpose computers are now called "digital keyboards" but this should not deceive us as to their lineage or essential function). Looking forward, what can we see in the xenharmonic future? -- Clearly the rapid rate of increase in the speed of desktop computers means that within 10 to 15 years every synthesis algorithm currently used in Csound and its ilk will run in real time. Of course, new and even more demanding synthesis algorithms will be developed in the meantime--but within the next 10 years or so the average person will be able to use a remarkable array of extremely sophisticated synthesis techniques to play notes generated completely in software by a desktop general-purpose computer in real time. This will probably be the next era of microtonality. -- One likely result is that live concerts will continue to fade away. This has been happening already, but the trend will accelerate. Johnny Reinhard has already noticed it. Within a few years live concerts using traditional acoustic musical instruments will be priced far out of the range of the average person's ability to afford 'em, and they'll be available in only a few of the world's largest cities. Another of the implications of this next era is that it will for the first time be possible to calculate the timbre of a microtonal instrument on the fly. Thus, it will be of great interest to match timbres to tunings. At present William Sethares' work in this area has gone relatively unnoticed by the microtonal community because exotic, expensive and wildly time-consuming programs are needed to analyze and resynthesize acoustic sounds. As of 1996, it requires anywhere from a few minutes to several hours to number-crunch an acoustic sound, manipulate its partials, and resynthesize them so that the timbre fits the tuning. Programs like MatLab cost $2000 (yes, two THOUSAND dollars) and are difficult to use though adequately flexible; programs like Csound's HETRO and on the Mac LEMUR cost nothing but are inadequate for microtonal/musical use because of their lack of flexibility. (In MatLab you can tell the program to take input partials and map them to the closest notes in 19-TET; you cannot do this with HETRO or LEMUR. Both HETRO and LEMUR prevent the user from accessing the guts of the program in this way.) Moreover, all of these programs require minutes or hours to complete a single analysis/synthesis cycle of a single note. For multi-sampled notes spread over an 88-note keyboard, hundreds of analysis/synthesis cycles are required. And for (say) 30 different timbres in (say) 30 different tunings, tens of thousands of different analysis/resynthesis cycles would be needed. This means years worth of non-stop computing time even with today's 200 Mhz CPUs. Bill Schottstaedt several years ago mentioned that he felt the need for a machine at least 100 times as fast as the original NeXT cube. Given the magnitude of the tasks which face us in matching timbres to microtonal tunings, that probably represents a very conservative estimate. -- Beyond real-time resynthesis and its implied total timbral & pitch flexibility, what are the next few eras of microtonality likely to be? Virtual synthesis and performance environments are likely to appear. This implies that a generalized musical controller represents the next era of microtonality, beyond the next 10 years. With VR gear it should be easy enough to produce a virtual theremin or a virtual marimba (we probably won't be using MIDI, but a superset thereof, possibly based on FIreWire or the Uuniversal Serial Bus) or a virtual violin or a virtual Bosanquet keyboard. It's unclear whether VR generalized keyboards will catch on; a large part of musical instrument performance is muscle memory built by tactile feedback. VR gear offers no tactile feedback, nor is there any prospect of adding it to VR gear at low cost in the foreseeable future. (So much for teledildonics, gearheads.) So beyond the next 10 years my guess would be that the next era in microtonality will be heralded by new types of controllers, specifically Bosanquet- type controllers... But it's unclear whether they'll be physical controllers or virtual instruments. -- What are the current gaps? What kinds of tools and theories do we need to push microtonality beyond the extremely primitive point at we find ourselves in the late 1990s? -- First and most important is a generalized MIDI keyboard. The lack of a true generalized 2-D keyboard has crippled microtonality to a devastating extent. Paul Rapoport has pointed out repeatedly in this forum that it's almost impossible to perform useful non-12 music on a standard 7-white-5-black keyboard, and he's right. A few of us have managed to produce some highly microtonal music using conventional keyboards by subjecting ourselves to a deeply perverted S&M-style conditioning process whereby we unlearn conventional fingering techniques and chord progressions--but this has proven useful only for the equal temperaments and just arrays with roughly 22 or fewer notes. Beyond that point, we've had to flounder around with solo melodic lines or N-out-of-M notes of a given intonation. -- So my first clarion call to the members of this tuning forum is: someone get to work commercializing a cheap reliable MIDI Bosanquet-type keyboard! Harold Fortuin has already built one, but it's unclear whether his licensing agreement with STEIM will let him commercialize it, and it's even more unclear whether STEIM gives a damn about driving the cost down on the clavette and pumping these things out by the thousands. Probably not. Most large music foundations have zero interest in doing the tough work required to move the state of the art forward and produce tectonic change; large music foundations prefer to sponsor works of arts and individuals and thus produce obvious tangible short-term one-of-a-kind results. This leaves it to you, the members of this tuning forum. Between you, there's more than enough talent and ability to produce a cheap commerical reliable MIDI generalized keyboard. Who among you will build one that I can afford to buy? -- The second enormous gap is in software tools. Specifically, we need easy-to-use MIDI software tools which allow us to quickly and efficiently manipulate xenharmonic MIDI files. The problem is this: if you're in, say, Partch's 43-tone and you want to modulate to the 3/2, that means switching to a second MIDI channel in which all the intervals have been tuned up by a 3/2. However, there's no easy way to directly transpose the existing MIDI sequence on channel 1 and use it harmoniously on channel 2 along with channel 1 without encountering awkward commas. A human performing such a modulation in just intonation would know which notes on channel 2 to omit and which notes "fit" with channel 1. But MIDI, being nothing more than a set of note numbers from 1-27, knows nothing of which 3/2-transposed just pitches on channel 2 "fit" with the original pitches on channel 1. Clearly, we need an intelligent MIDI file parser. This MIDI file parser would offer a simple input screen and would quickly process input MIDI files and generate output MIDI files. In the example above, it would take MIDI notes on channel 1 and output MIDI notes on channel 2. Notes on channel 2 which don't "fit" with those on channel would be left on MIDI channel 1. This example concerns just intonation, but an equally important example could be taken from non-12 equal temperament. Suppose you're composing a set of variations in 5-TET through 53-TET; you want to play a theme in the nearest notes to a given set of pitches in each of those equal temperaments. Your input is a set of MIDI notes. How do you proceed? At present, a lot of skull sweat and programming is required. Again, what we desperately need is an intelligent MIDI file parser. The parser would offer a simple input screen (something like: "input number of tones/oct?" _____ "Number of output equal temperaments? (1-16)" ____ "Enter output ET number 1 and track number: " ___ ____ ...." In other words, this intelligent parser would accept user input and process a single MIDI file with a single track and generate an output MIDI file with multiple tracks. Each output track would contain the MIDI notes of the closest notes to a given set of pitches in a desired equal temperament. There is nothing like this in existence anywhere that I know. It is an extremely important requirement, since many situations arise every day in which such xenharmonic MIDI file processing is an absolute necessity. Let me give another example of badly needed this kind of intelligent MIDI file parser is: suppose you have a MIDI synth module like the Proteus II orcehstral block. This MIDI synth is basically a playback-only unit. It contains lots of orchestral samples. Because these samples are fixed in ROM, they can't be changed. This means that if you want to play the Proteus II in Partch 43 tone monophonic fabric pitches, most of the samples will sound godawful because they'll be either far too high or far too low. That is, the note at which the sample was orginally recorded becomes farther and farther away from the pitch played in Partch 43 tone JI as you move toward the extreme upper and lower end of the keyboard. Because the Proteus II has only one tuning table, you're stuck. The only way around this problem is an intelligent MIDI file parser. What you need to do is break up the tuning table into 4 blocks of 12 out of the Partch 43 just pitches; each track would play 12 of Partch 43 on a different channel. You then tune the Proteus II to set #1 of 12 out of Partch 43 and play the processed MIDI track #1 containing MIDI tones for only 12 out of Partch 43. You record this to hard disk or ADAT or portastudio. Then you play back processed MIDI track #2 after returning the Proteus II to the second 12-out-of-Partch-43 pitch table and record that in simul-sync with the first track. And so on for 4 complete tracks. When played back all together, the 4 separate tracks completely avoid the chimpunking (samples played much too high or low) and sound as they should. This can only be done with the aid of an intelligent MIDI file parser. We desperately need something like this. This tuning forum surely boasts a remarkable overload of programming talent. Who among you will write such an intelligent MIDI file parser? -- A third and extremely important task that someone needs to do is to tear down and resynthesize a complete set of sampled orchestral timbres so that the altered timbres are maximally consonant in equal temperaments 5 through 53 per octave. This is an enormous task, requiring fantastic amounts of processing power. Who among you will accomplish this vital task? -- A fourth extremely important gap in the xenharmonic toolkit is a set of MIDI file processing programs which clean up the output from non-standard controllers. As we all know, microtonality accomodates atypical controllers--wind controllers, MIDI violin controllers, MIDI theremins, MIDI guitars. The problem is that most of these controllers are not yet ready for prime time. They output loads of spurious notes and glitches. There should be easily-available shareware MIDI file processing programs which take input MIDI wind controller files and search-and-destroy all the tiny brief note-on glitches and spurious pitch-bends. Ditto MIDI theremin input tracks: ditto MIDI guitar input tracks. Who among you will produce such a piece of shareware programming? -- We also need music theory tools to deal with unanswered questions in microtonality. Example: why does a tuning with "good" numbers like 24-TET sound so uninteresting while a tuning with "bad" numbers like 9-TET sound so musical and so fascinating? We need better theoretical tools than crude measurements of this or that scale against the harmonic series. As has been pointed out often enough, the harmonic series is not the be-all and end-all of music; most musical cultures throughout the world do not use pitches derived from the harmonic series, and psychoacoustic studies demonstrate that when intervals drawn from the harmonic series are played, most people hear them as "impure" and "not just." Computer analysis of live performances by expert musicians also show wild deviations from the target notes, which deviations are nonetheless heard as being "in tune." We need more and better psychoacoustic research to understand this, and we need more sophisticated theories of intonation to explain these results. We need better music theoretic tools to quantify the "moods" of the various tunings, as Ivor Darreg called them. Everyone knows that 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, and 40-TET share a similar "sound" or "mood." But we need to be able to turn it into hard numbers. Similarly, everyone knows that Ptolemy's intense diatonic and the scale of Olympos share more of a "mood" than the enharmonic genus, but again we need more finely honed theories to quantify this. We all know that the "limit" of a just tuning has an important effect on the "mood" of the scale. But we need theoretical tools which will allow finer distinctions to be made among just tunings than something as coarse as the "limit" of the tuning. At present, there is a singular dearth of such theoretical tools. --mclaren
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From: mclaren Subject: Muddy thinking, con artistry, and John Cage - part I of 2 -- Many thanks to Eric Lyon for falling into the Bengal tiger trap hidden in my post in Topic 3 of Tuning Digest 803. By helpfully committing so many flagrant logical errors, he has given me leave to dilate on important points which the brevity of Topic 3, digest 803 did not permit me to discuss. My post stated (in part): "Exactly what is an experimental composer? "Which hypothesis does the experimental composer conduct an experiment to test? "What is the experimental control? What kind of statistical methods does the experimental composer use to analyze hi/r results--linear regression, chi square, least squares, ANOVA? "Which laws of nature does the experimental composer seek to investigate?" Lyon describes this criticism as "inane" insofar as "Most of these questions are irrelevant because musical experimentation does not equal scientific experimentation." -- This is a classic example of the slovenly thinking best satirized in Charles Dodgson's "Through the Looking Glass" : "I don't know what you mean by `glory,'" Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't-- till I tell you. I meant `there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'" "But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,'" Alice objected. "When *I* use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you *can* make words mean so many different things." [Lewis Carroll (nee Charles Dodgson), "Through the Looking Glass"] -- In this case the word being grossly misued is "experimental." "Experimental" does not have an infinite variety of possible meanings. It does not mean just what Eric Lyon chooses it to mean. The American College Dictionary defines "Experimental" as: "1. pertaining to, derived from, or founded on experiment: an experimental science. 2. based on or derived from experience; empirical; experimental religion. 3. Of the nature of an experiment; tentative." John Cage's use of the word "experimental" violently contradicts all three of these meanings. -- Lyons' logical error is his assumption that he can misuse and abuse and warp and twist the word "experimental" at will. (Notably, this is one of John Cage's most flagrant errors as well.) And, like Cage, Lyon has not only misused the word "experimental," he has demonstrated his ignorance of the meaning of the word -- and of its profoundly important implications in our culture. The word "experimental" inevitably takes on overtones of the scientific method whenever it is used nowadays. "Of the nature of an experiment" (the dictionary definition which refers to this implication of the word) refers to the use of experimental technique and methodology in the course of applying the scientific method. What is the scientific method? Clearly Eric Lyon does know. He states that "the scientist makes the utmost effort to *disprove* his hypothesis to determine its veracity." This is not the scientific method. It is never enough merely to "make the utmost effort to disprose" an hypothesis, since one's utmost efforts are likely to be futile-- life is short, experiments are complex, and there are too many possible ways of doing the wrong experiment. For example, suppose I hypothesize that light is a form of electromagnetic radiation. Such radiation is--as we all know--produced by accelerating an electric charge or a magnet. To test this hypothesis, I shake a magnet with my hand. No matter how rapidly I shake the magnet, it never emits any light. To do my utmost to disprove my hypothesis, I hook up the magnet to a widget which agitates the magnet over a wide range of frequencies, up to thousands of times a second. Having "done my utmost" to disprove the hypothesis that light is electromagnetic radiation, I conclude that my hypothesis is false. What's wrong with this "experiment"? The problem is that I would have had to agaitate the magnet at a rate of about 10^15 cycles per second to get it emit visible light. Doing "my utmost to disprove" the hypothesis wasn't remotely adequate, because I didn't know the range of requencies required for visible light. Another variant of such bad science would be to fire up a radio broadcast tower, transmit over a wide range of frequencies, and show that in no case was light ever emitted. Again, this fails the test of a scientific experiment because experimental scientists do NOT try to "do their utmost to disprove the hypothesis." Rather, in the real world they calculate an expected result from a mathematical model and perform repeatable experiments to determine whether the calculated values match the observed experimental results. Moreover, Lyon's claim is obviously false for another reason. It is *never* possible to "make the utmost effort to *disprove*" an hypothesis, since one can never prove a negative. The effort required to disprove an hypothesis is infinite and thus the utmost effort is unending and without limit. For example, a scientist who hypothesizes that a psuedorandom number generator produces a good simulation of an ergodic stochastic source would--by Lyon's criterion-- have to perform an infinite number of tests on an infinite number of runs by the pseudo- random number generator. Otherwise, the scientist would not be "doing his utmost to disprove his hypothesis." Of course, no scientist does what Eric Lyon suggests because this is not science. Lyon clearly does not know what science is, what constitutes an experiment, or the nature of the scientific method. "Experiment is the sole source of truth. It alone can teach us something new; it alone can give us certainty. These are two points that cannot be questioned. (..) It is not sufficient merely to observe; we must use our observations, and for that purpose we must generalize. This is what has always been done, only as the recollection of past errors has made man more and more circumspect, he has observed more and more and generalized less and less. (..) What then is a good experiment? It is that which teaches us something more than an isolated fact. Without generalization, prediction is impossible. The circumstances under which one has operated will never again be reproduced simultaneously. The fact observed will never been repeated. All that can be affirmed is that under analagous circumstances an analagous fact will be produced. To predict it, we must therefore invoke the aid of analogy-- that it to say, even at this stage, we must generalize. (..) Experiment only gives us a certain number of isolated points. They must be connected by a continuous line, and this is a true generalization. But more is done. The curve thus traced will pass between and near the points themselves. Thus we are not restricted to generalizing our experiment, we must correct it. (..) Detached facts cannot therefore satisfy us, and that is why our science must be ordered, or, better still, generalized." [Poincare, Henri, "Hypotheses in Physics," pg. 142, from Science and Hypothesis, Dover Edition, 1952] One of the finest mathematicians of all time, Poincare had a good idea what the scientific method involved. "Every experiment must enable us to make a maximum number of repdictions having the highest possible degree of probability. The problem is, so to speak, to increase the output of the scientific machine. I may be permitted to compare science to a library which must go on increasing indefinitely; the librarian has limited funds for his purchases, and he must, therefore, strain every nerve not to waste them." [Poincare, op. cit, pg. 144] Lyons' claim about the scientific method grossly violates Poincare's principle of experimental parsimony. This is as we would expect, since Lyon understands nothing of the scientific method; but Poincare makes it pellucidly clear that quick rejection of an hypothesis is of the utmost importance. "Every generalization is a hypothesis. Hypothesis therefore plays a necessary role, which no one has ever contested. Only, it should always be as soon as possible submitted to verification. ...If it cannot stand this test, it must be abandoned without any hesitation. (..) If [the hypothesis] is not verified, it is because there is something unexpected and extraordinary about it, because we are on the point of finding something unknown and new. Has the hypothesis thus rejected been made sterile? Far from it. It may even be said that it has rendered more service than a true hypothesis. Not only has it been the occasion of a decisive experiment, but if this experiement had been made by chance, without the hypothesis, no conclusion could have been drawn; nothing extraordinary would have been seen; and only one fact the more would have been catalogued, without deducing from it the remotest consequence." [Poincare, Henri, op cit., pg. 151] Notice that this latter pointless activity is *precisely* what Cage advocates. From this "experiment...made by chance" without an hypothesis, no conclusion can be drawn; the outcome is "without the remotest consequence." This is not science. This is not an experiment. It is not "experimental." Neither Eric Lyon nor John Cage understood this--because neither of them understood the meaning of the word "experiment," the nature of the scientific method, or (apparently) any of the other technical vocabulary they have chosen to misuse. This discussion of the the experimental method is particularly appropriate to microtonality because, as we've seen, time and time again xenharmonic intonations have been dismissed as "useless" and "impractical" and "unmusical" on the basis of abstract calculations--yet these same intonations prove superbly useful for composers of microtonal music. Barbour, for instance, dismissed 19-tet: yet reams of excellent 19-tet music has been composed. Fox- Strangways dismissed just intonation as impractical--yet Partch and the members of the JIN have composed enormous amounts of beautiful music using ji. 15-tet has been pooh-poohed as "unmusical," yet Easley Blackwood has proven that it is not only musical but fertile ground for microtonal composition. And so on. Thus, it is especially vital when discussing microtonality to have a firm grasp on the scientific method, for new tunings must always be *tested* by *experiment* before they can be accepted or discarded. And Eric Lyon makes this difficult because he has given a series of utterly false definitions of "experiment" and by implication the scientific method. Instead, what scientists actually do is to try to prove their hypotheses by measuring physical events and comparing the results with calculations based on mathematical models derived from their hypotheses. To proceed in the opposite way, by trying (and failing) to disprove one's hypothesis, is futile and in fact a profound logical fallacy. For Lyon reasons that if a large enough number of instances in which an hypothesis is not true cannot be demonstrated, the hypothesis must be correct. This is obviously false, and it has been known to be false for more than two thousand years: Aristotle discussed this logical error, and it has been used as a textbook example of faulty reasoning in universities throughout Medieval Europe, the great institutions of learning of the Renaissance, and up to the modern day. This reasoning is faulty because no matter how many experiments you perform to disprove your hypothesis, it doesn't guarantee that *both* your hypothesis *and* the null hypothesis might be false, and the truth might be a third possibility you hadn't thought of. Notice that this is *exactly* and *precisely* the same logical fallacy into which critics of JI and microtonality have consistently fallen; a theorist here and there attempts to compose in a xenharmonic intonation, and knowing nothing about the intonation, produces unlistenable junk. From this they conclude that microtonal tunings are "useless" and "unmusical." Barbour is a prime example: his misuse of JI--in which hs tries to compose a passage which modules from C to F# without changing any of the pitches by a comma-- does not show that JI is "useless" or "unmusical," it merely shows that Barbour's use of JI is inept, unmusical and willfully ignorant. This should be so obvious as to require no explanation, but apparently this kind of 2500-year-old logical fallacy is news to many of you, including Eric Lyon. (Sigh) The scientific method does not stress disproof, but positive demonstrations, for precisely this reason. A million pieces of bad music composed by people ignorant of JI do not disprove the utility of JI: but one good piece of music composed by someone knowledgable of JI *DOES* prove the intonation's utility. Eric Lyon clearly does not understand the scientific method, nor the logic behind it. These concepts are apparently alien to him, just as they were to John Cage, just as no "experimental" composer appears to have known what the scientific method involves or why it is *vitally* important when dealing with new intonations. As John Backus pointed out, "terms borrowed from the field of science must be used with their precise scientific meanings." Otherwise, the result will be pseudo-science, "disregard for the accepted meanings of scientific terms, (..) unintelligibility, and (..) complete lack of any reference to the results of other workers as support for (..) statements." [Backus, J. "Die Reihe--A Scientific Evaluation," Perspectives of New Music, Vol. 1, No. 1, pp. 161, 171] The concluding half of this post deals with some concrete examples which show why an understanding of the scientific method (and use of the word "experimental" in accord with its specific dictionary definition) is so crucially important in dealing with microtonal scales. --mclaren
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