TD 1570: Jewish music

Johnny Reinhard wrote:

> Every 13-year old boy singing the haftorah for his
> Bar Mitzvah chants. There are added symbols placed
> above the text to influence the reading. They are
> somewhat like Indian gamulkas, more like *shapes of
> sound* than pitches.

Emphasis mine -- sure sounds like you're talking about
nuemes! (or at least something resembling neumes)

- Joe Monzo
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One more footnote on my trill question: Most replies also suggested
that it's more involved than just the era. One respondent said that in
baroque repertoire it's really not the upper note, but the more dissonant
note. Three people also mentioned that it depends on the note before it
but slightly disagreed on what the dependency is.

Three respondents also suggested that it depends on the country, or I'd
think more likely the "school" (e.g., German-English vs. Italian vs.
French-Russian).

So in short, like the Harvard folks said, it's an involved topic.

With regard to jazz, I can't seem to conjure up any jazz piece with a
trill in it; can any of you? By that I mean a trill used in the classical
sense: an ornament as a form of melodic accent, such as at a phrase ending.
That as opposed to, for lack of a better phrase, a stand-alone "effect".
Then again, I mostly do classical and Baroque, so it probably wouldn't
surprise me if there are some.

I'm pretty sure that rock guitarists (like me) start on the lower note
-- I'll scan through some Hendrix and see if I can find any examples.
Back to microtones, the other day I heard some rock with a lengthy
guitar "trill" where the two notes were a sub-minor third apart. This
happens when trying to do a major second trill with an open string and
the note on its second string. On a guitar with light strings and low
action, the player will not be able to achieve a well-articulated
pull-off from the upper note without bending it considerably.

I wrote,

>This
>happens when trying to do a major second trill with an open string and
>the note on its second string.

I meant its second fret!