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Mathematical curiosity -- what does it mean?

🔗"Paul H. Erlich" <PErlich@...>

6/23/1998 3:17:18 PM
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In TD 999, I posted a derivation of optimal tunings of the diatonic
scale, and in for my paper I did the same for decatonic scales. These
tunings were derived by minimizing the mean squared error of all
intervals in the triad or tetrad, respectively. Both scales are
generated by an approximation to the 3/2, with a fixed half-octave
(square root of two) also required to generate the decatonic scale. The
results (found also in my paper) give the optimal approximation of the
3/2 as a fraction of an octave:

(a+b*log(3)+c*log(5)+d*log(7))/n octave

where all logs are to the base 2. If we choose the smallest possible
integer n such that a, b, c, and d are all integers as well, then the
values are:

diatonic: a=2, b=-2, c=7, d=0, n=26
decatonic: a=61, b=14, c=d=-10, n=54

Now the expression above can also be interpreted as giving a
(non-integral) number of steps in n-equal temperament. So the diatonic
3/2 is given as a number (15.0836) of steps in 26-tET, and the decatonic
3/2 is given as a number (31.8966) of steps in 54-tET.

What's interesting is that 26-tET and 54-tET are just barely
"overtempered" tunings for the respective scales. In other words, the
3/2 in these tunings is far enough from just that bringing it closer to
just will decrease the worst error without increasing the second-worst
error in the tuning, until the two are equal, and continuing to bring it
closer to just will result in the optimal tuning. However, neither
26-tET nor 54-tET are wholly unacceptable for the respective scales, the
worst errors being 17.08 cents (5/4) and 17.69 cents (6/5),
respectively. (Note that 54-tET has a better approximation of 6/5 than
the one that occurs in the decatonic scale, making it potentially
confusing to use in practice.)

I can see no reason why n should turn out to be an equal temperament
that is suited for the scale in question. It seems like another crazy
coincidence.



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