10TET's, 7/4, you name it

Gary Dude:

Nice to hear some talk about 7/4's for a change. Hey I want your
impression of something:

You talk about 10TET (and my own forum CD piece) as Decatonic.
That's like saying Octatonic is 8TET, right?

I say Decatonic to mean 10 intervals, but in two sizes
(like the old Messiaen, Stravinsky stuff) the way Octatonic
has whole step, half step, etc. Then, with my music, still
in ET's, we get Extended Octatonics where the big intervals
stay the same but side intervals get narrower, like 60cent,
80 cent, etc.

In "Pient Molles" (forum CD piece), it's 5 240-cent big pieces
with 60-cent small pieces in between.

But your stuff was, in fact, 120cent (one size) 10TET?

Rickski

Hey folks,

Do a search on "Todor Fay"; any search engine will do, I imagine. You'll
see he's been programming sound/midi/software stuff for quite a while, and
most of this was developed on the Amiga. Apparantly his last company, Blue
Ribbon Soundworks, got bought by Microsoft. Now they own his brain and it's
handywork.

If anyone is truly shocked, surf a bit until you find his email at
Microsoft and then try and convince him he was stupid to allow them to
co-opt his ideas. Me, I just accept this as the decline of Western
civilization in the late 20th century.

Oh, yes: can everyone please turn off their MIME encoding doo-hickeys when
posting to the list so we don't have to scroll through ASCII wallpaper?
Thanks....

Cheers,
Jon
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I noticed the patent creator is Todor Fay. For those who don't already know. He
is the programmer of the former Blue Ribbon Soundworks products who sold
"Melody Maestro", "Audio Tracks Pro", "Sound Track Express" and SuperJAM!" and
prior to PC development, worked on the Amiga with "Bars&Pipes Pro",
"PatchMeister" and "SuperJAM!" Prior to working with Blue Ribbon, he programmed
the sequencer "SoundScape". In short, his musical programming background and
development over the years makes him imminently qualified for getting a patent
regardless of his current affiliation with Microsoft whose "Music Producer" is
their latest product similar to the former "Audio Tracks Pro" program.

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Benjamin Tubb
brtubb@cybertron.com

Benjamin Tubb wrote:
> In short, his musical programming background and
> development over the years makes him imminently qualified for getting a patent
> regardless of his current affiliation with Microsoft whose "Music Producer" is
> their latest product similar to the former "Audio Tracks Pro" program.

Thanks for the background there; I was not aware of that.

Still, I think it's fair to say that the concern here is not the
inventor (Tudor Fay), but the consignee (Microsoft). It's important to
understand that patents are not defensive in nature, as they are often
thought of. Patents give their holders OFFENSIVE legal rights. A
former employee claimed - probably accurately best I can tell - that in
the early 1990 Texas Instruments' most profitable department was their
legal department. They generated a lot of revenue from prosecuting
patent violators.

I think it's pretty clear from what I read of this, that the target
application is computer games, but let's imagine for a moment that some
garage inventor comes up with a cool program for realtime harmony
generation. It becomes popular enough to catch Microsoft's attention.
At that point, Microsoft will probably have the opportunity to take over
that garage inventor's product and company practically for free.

On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:34:18 +0000, Gary Morrison wrote:

> Thanks for the background there; I was not aware of that.

Indeed I have an Amiga, and have all the programs I mentioned (except
"PatchMeister"), and can expecially "vouch" for Todor Fay's programming
"genious" in his "progression" from "SoundScape", "Bars&Pipes Pro", to the
"SuperJAM!"/"Melody Maestro"/"AudioTracks" Pro algorhythmic "paradigms". I hope
someday "Bar&Pipes Pro" may be converted to the PC platform , which is
_still_ superior, IMHO, to most PC/Mac sequencers. (As indeed is Dr. T's "KCS
Level II" with PVG/MPE modules and "Open Mode" programability.)

> Still, I think it's fair to say that the concern here is not the
inventor (Tudor Fay), but the consignee (Microsoft).

You might also consider the SSEYO "Koan Pro" 'engine' to have similar
capabilities/competition in direct contrast to Microsoft's "Music Producer". I
hope to get a copy of their patent to fully read.

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Benjamin Tubb
brtubb@cybertron.com
http://home.cybertron.com/~brtubb/theory.html