Archive for current digests ?I lost one

It's nobody's fault but mine ,mine mine ,mine......

Actually it was a bug in ClarisWorks 5.0 that 's responsible.. :-(

I just lost Tuning Digest 1416 (today).Is there an archive for current
digests ?
I checked ella.mills ,seems to stop in1997.
if it is not yet archived,could someone make like Cinderella's friend
with the wand and mail me a copy ?
I'm getting a lot out of the Prime/Odd thread and am anxious to read
today's thrilling episode.

-Drew

> ..., I've decided to disband the little triple-just mailing list I
>started and to start another specifically for just intonation in general
> This will provide a smaller and more specific alternative to the
>Mills College alternate tunings mailing list.

I think that's great. Perhaps somebody out there might want to start
one another for equal temperaments, or well temperaments. I recommend
however, that however many more specific lists there may be, people should
not refrain from posting about JI here on the main Mills college list as
well.

Along different lines, I've long thought that a Newsgroup would be a
good way to go for this sort of thing (so that you can keep the threads
straight)

mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison) wrote

> I think that's great. Perhaps somebody out there might want to start
one another for equal temperaments, or well temperaments. I recommend,
however, that however many more specific lists there may be, people
should not refrain from posting about JI here on the main >Mills college
list as well.

Hi, Gary, thanks for the response. Certainly that's true, and it's
not my intention to reduce the JI message traffic in here. Soory this
response is so late, but I've been working on the new web page for the
just-intonation-specific mailing list (which now has 7 subscribers).
It's at:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/4013/justmail.html

One of the reasons I'm doing this is because I've developed a new
mailing list format I call a "hyper-mailing-list", becuase it includes
not only the mailing list, but a subscriber-centric web page, which
helps give potential new subscribers a feel for the present subscribers
to the list, and also an agressive publicity campaign on 8 related
usenet newsgroups. If any of you have seen my publicity posts, they
include links to the Just Intonation Network web site, and also the
alternate tunings mailing list web page within that sight. So, I'm sure
my efforts won't detract from this list at all, but help bring more
subscribers in here, also.

> Along different lines, I've long thought that a Newsgroup would be a
good way to go for this sort of thing (so that you can keep the >threads
straight)

That's definitely a great idea! I'm just not familiar with the
procedures for creating new newsgroups, and am more comfortable with the
mailing list format.

Bill Flavell



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I don't think it's generally a good idea to break up this list. As
long as there's a huge body of standardised instruments and thought
patterns in 12-equal, we all face similar problems. I don't see
why what would be interesting to just intonationists wouldn't also
be to other tuning fans. Questions on what do to with the comma
also arise in 22 and 41 equal, and so on.

I would like a mailing list devoted to the links between music and
mathematics. There are a lot of threads on this list that drift off
topic, and some people who don't like the maths.

Otherwise, if tuning is going to be segregated, I suggest it be
along these lines:

Historical Tunings -- meantone, well temperament, the Bach chestnut

Practicalities -- instrument building, synth tuning

Quintal Scales -- attempts to improve the tuning of triadic harmony

Higher Prime Scales -- just or otherwise, the same issues arise

Non-Harmonic Scales -- with no explicit link to integer ratios

Most threads would fit neatly under one of those topics. However,
a lot of interesting topics wouldn't be possible if the just
intonationists were in one camp and the temperers in another.


There is a lot of stuff on JI on the Web, and a page indexing it
all would be welcome.

I don't think moving to the Usenet is a good idea. This list works
extremely well -- no noisy flame wars or anything like that. Don't
change a winning formula!

I agree whole-heartedly and practically to the
letter with everything Graham Breed said about
not splitting up this list, and if it does split up,
how to split it.

I think a single forum for TUNING, in all its aspects,
is more valuable than anything specific could be,
at least at this stage of the game. It's still early on
in the battle to rid the world of 12-eq dominance,
and I think it's healthiest to air all of our different
concerns in this one place.

Joseph L. Monzo
monz@juno.com


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>I don't think it's generally a good idea to break up this list.
>... I don't see
>why what would be interesting to just intonationists wouldn't also
>be to other tuning fans.

Certainly such a posting should go to the main list.

Breaking up the list won't destroy it. I for one don't get a chance to
read every posting, and classifying them further would help me keep my
attention focused.