metaphorical Cage

John Saylor wrote, or rather responded:

>
> >Any symbol or metaphor found in these works is put there by the
> >listener not by John Cage.
>
> Indeed! But's what's so bad about that?

I think Larry Solomon's point here was that there wasn't any
problem with that and thought John Saylor found a problem with
it. For my part, I think each listener approaches listening
through his or her own lense, which may include interpretation
of symbols to some degree or not at all. In the course of this
thread of symbolism I've realized that I'm more drawn to
listening to pieces by Cage that don't suggest something beyond
the music itself (such as string quartets or titles with
numbers) because I prefer just to hear it than to be burdened
with the thought that it's *about*somehting because the title
mentions something like stars, or sounds poetic. But that's just
my problem and has probably caused me to not listen to a lot of
good music.
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On Sunday 5 October 15.00 h. in Teylers Museum, Haarlem.
Delphi Saxofoonkwartet: Ferdi Schukking sopraansaxofoon, Evert Hoedt
altsaxofoon, Roy Hovens tenorsaxofoon, Gerwil Kusters baritonsaxofoon.

The programme is

Ton de Leeuw Saxophone Quartet (1993)
Jan van Dijk Vier harmonisch-melodische intonatie-oefeningen
(1946)
Jos Zwaanenburg Under Dirndl Skirts (1997)
Anne La Berge Rough Sax (1997)
Ryo Noda Murasaki no Fuchi (1981)
Sofia Goebaidoelina Sonata for two Bariton Saxophones (1994)
J. Ciconia O virum omnimoda (ca. 1400)

A microtonal concert organised by Huygens-Fokker. Jan van Dijk's work is
a 31-tone composition. The Delphi Saxofoonkwartet was founded by Gerwil
Kusters and has its current members since 1995. It's specialised in
music of Dutch composers specially written for saxophone quartet.
Also this evening in De IJsbreker, Amsterdam.


On Monday 6 October 20.30 h. in De Synagoge, Tilburg and
Tuesday 7 October 20.30 h. in Theater Kikker, Utrecht.
The Interval Chamber gives a concert with the following programme:

Andre' Douw new work
Tan Dun Lament: Autumn Wind (1993, rev. 1995)
Witold Lutoslawski Sacher Variation (1975)
Tristan Murail La Barque mystique
Rafael Reina Drag on...claustrophobia
Giacinto Scelsi String Trio

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl


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On Thursday 2 April 20.30 h. in De IJsbreker, Amsterdam:

Wim Hoogewerf & Caroline Delume, guitar, Francis Pierre, Keltic harp.

The programme is

Terry Riley In C
Julia'n Carrillo 2 parts from Suite Impromptu (1931)
Philippe Leroux IAI (1997)
Pascale Criton La Ritornelle et le Galop (1996)
Entre-deux, l'e'ternite' (1997)
Jan Vriend Toque por la tierra vacia (1981)
Alois Ha'ba 3 parts from Suite (1946)

On Sunday 5 April 15.00 h. in Teylers Museum, Haarlem:

The same programme plus music from John Dowland and Constantijn Huygens.

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl

Let's not forget that the Dowland works will be in Dowland's own preferred
tuning. Wim Hoogewerf was here in NYC for last year's MicroMay '97 and
the Dowland was a highlight.

Johnny Reinhard
Director
American Festival of Microtonal Music
318 East 70th Street, Suite 5FW
New York, New York 10021 USA
(212)517-3550/fax (212) 517-5495
reinhard@idt.net
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On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 Manuel.Op.de.Coul@ezh.nl wrote:

> On Thursday 2 April 20.30 h. in De IJsbreker, Amsterdam:
>
> Wim Hoogewerf & Caroline Delume, guitar, Francis Pierre, Keltic harp.
>
> The programme is
>
> Terry Riley In C
> Julia'n Carrillo 2 parts from Suite Impromptu (1931)
> Philippe Leroux IAI (1997)
> Pascale Criton La Ritornelle et le Galop (1996)
> Entre-deux, l'e'ternite' (1997)
> Jan Vriend Toque por la tierra vacia (1981)
> Alois Ha'ba 3 parts from Suite (1946)
>
> On Sunday 5 April 15.00 h. in Teylers Museum, Haarlem:
>
> The same programme plus music from John Dowland and Constantijn Huygens.
>
> Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl
>

On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Johnny Reinhard wrote:
> Let's not forget that the Dowland works will be in Dowland's own preferred
> tuning. Wim Hoogewerf was here in NYC for last year's MicroMay '97 and
> the Dowland was a highlight.

What exactly was Dowland's preferred tuning, and where does he say what
it was/that he preferred it?

--pH http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote
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/\ "How about that? The guy can't run six balls,
-\-\-- o and they make him president."

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I've got this tuning in my archive, maybe that's the one.

Dowland lute tuning
0: 1/1 0.000 unison, perfect prime
1: 33/31 108.237
2: 9/8 203.910 major whole tone
3: 33/28 284.447
4: 264/211 387.954
5: 4/3 498.045 perfect fourth
6: 24/17 597.000 1st septendecimal tritone
7: 3/2 701.955 perfect fifth
8: 99/62 810.192
9: 27/16 905.865 Pythagorean major sixth
10: 99/56 986.402
11: 396/211 1089.909
12: 2/1 1200.000 octave

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl

On Wednesday 20 May 20.30 h. in De IJsbreker, Amsterdam:

Christina Ascher, mezzo-soprano, Christoph von Erffa, cello.

The programme is

Priti Paintal Devi (1987)
Vincent Gru"ger De umbra loquens (1990) / Suave loquens (1989/91)
Viera Jana'rcekova' Der geheimnisvolle Nachen (1989)
Bojidar Spassov J.D. Songs (1990)
Ezra Sims If I Told Him (1996)

These microtonal compositions were written specially for this duo.


On Thursday 28 May 20.30 h. in De IJsbreker, Amsterdam:

The Interval Chamber cond. by Jose' Vicente.

The programme is

David del Puerto Canto del Abismo
Rafael Reina Renacimientos de fin de sieglo
Ramo'n Ramos new work
Miguel Ruiz new work
Ximo Cano new work

All Spanish microtonal music. Next season the Interval Chamber will
present a French programme.

Manuel Op de Coul