TUNING digest 1391

Dan,

Your thoughts on pelog make fascinating reading. I hope to
read your whole article when you've finished revising it.
A few further thoughts:

>In the central Javanese palace instruments
>(cf the Gadja Mada study), this average is
>indeed around 665 cents. However, since so many modern
>instruments copy the RRI Solo tuning, with essentially
>a slendro kempyang ('fifth') of 721 cents, we may being
>witnessing one way in which a tuning trend develops.

That's interesting. I didn't know that the RRI instruments
had become such a model. I wonder why? (Not just the power of
mass media, I hope.)

>No, but if someone does come up with a just solution
>(I lean toward the view that these tunings are kinds
>of 'well temperaments'), I would be _very_ interested
>in hearing it.

Dan Schmidt's pelog comes close. It's a section of a harmonic
series from 8 (pelog 6) to 15 (pelog 5), omitting 13. It violates
your condition (7), but if you lower pitch 2, I think it satisfies
them all:
1/1 16/15 6/5 7/5 3/2 8/5 9/5 2/1
(This tuning is tumbuk 6 with P4=S5, by the way.)

<(already >80 cents, but usually a good deal
>These are already satisfied by setting 1-3 and 1-5.

I don't see this. It appears to me that you could have an 80-cent
6-7 that satisfies all your conditions, and a 3-4 that equals 4-5.
E.g. (in cents): 0 100 300 500 700 850 930 1200
Am I missing something?

Carter

>1. I don't know the law on putting other people's stuff on my page, but I
>sure would like to put some Partch, Darreg, etc. there. Does anyone on
>the list know the law on these matters?

John,

Putting copyrighted pieces, even excerpts, on your public server requires
that you pay performance rights royalties to ASCAP or BMI. There is
information about this at their web sites, including forms. When I queried
BMI about this issue, they said that they could not make any exceptions
(even when no money changes hands) as long as the composers have assigned
their performance rights to BMI. This means that you are even obligated to
pay for the music of tuning forum members who submit things to you, if
those composers are members of ASCAP or BMI. The only alternative, so far
as I know, is to get the composers to assign performance rights to you
directly. BMI and ASCAP performance rights are "non-exclusive," meaning
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(i.e. you) on an individual basis. Thus if someone explicitly assigns you
those rights, you don't have to pay ASCAP or BMI. I hope this helps.

Bill

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