>}The octahedra are actually kind of interesting as chords, >}almost like the Petrushka chord. > >Paul H. > >These octahedra are examples of the Wilson 2)4 [1,3,5,7] hexany. The hexany >(as it is called for short, usually without ambiguity) is perhaps Erv >Wilson's most famous creation. He probably envisioned it more as a scale than >a chord, the basic harmonies being the eight 7-limit triads it contains. > >And thanks for being a Paul with such a good reply to the message addressed >to Paul & All. It should have been addressed to All Pauls. > >P.S. > >I've been debating whether the next guitar should be 31-tone or fretless. >Although I have come up with some good ideas on the 22-tone, they're not >really decatonic so I might as well explore other tunings. A look at my >collected TDs found a reference to Erv Wilson teaching Star Trek actors to >sing hexanies with a 41-tone guitar. And of course we have a subscriber who >plays and teaches 53-tone. If these are playable, 31-tone should certainly >be, but this morning I tried to play a 5th-string-root E7b9 chord (or >thereabouts) on my 22-tone, and couldn't get the barre finger to stay within >one fret increment. Actually, both of my utonal tetrad fingerings use a barre >that lands on two different frets in two different places, taking advantage >of the natural way my index finger curves. As for the straight barre, I'm >sure it's just a matter of practice, but it seems like a 31-tone might just >make the problem insurmountable.
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>If there is a little room left over on the >tuning forum CD, it would be cool to include scores, photos, bio >material, etc.
Cool idea. Or perhaps extended liner notes. I too have seen this done, but I don't know how it's done either. I'm inclined to guess that it might complicate the production significantly, but it might be worth investigating.
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> All- > I don't know how easy it is, but I know it is possible to > place CDROM data on an audio CD. If there is a little room left over on the > tuning forum CD, it would be cool to include scores, photos, bio > material, etc. Does anyone here have experience creating mixed media CDs? > > John Starrett
This is the Blue Book standard which specifies the CD Extra standard, also known as enhanced CD. It is a multisession CD with audio recorded on the first session and a data track recorded on the second session. Early enhanced CDs had problems with the data track being playable by the CD audio players, creating horrible static noises if you inadvertantly selected that track. The Blue Book standard fixes this problem. However, some CD-ROM drives will not read multisession disks. I don't have a CD Recorder myself and have no idea how much this would cost or how many audio mastering studios support it. This could also eat into our allotted track times if we try to store bit map graphic files of a few scores or a lot of photos.
John Loffink
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>Topic No. 3 >From: John Starrett >All- > I don't know how easy it is, byt I know it is possible to >place CDROM data on an audio CD. If there is a little room left over >on the >tuning forum CD, it would be cool to include scores, photos, bio >material, etc. Does anyone here have experience creating mixed media >CDs? > >John Starrett >
John, the type of CD your talking about is called a "mixed mode" CD or "CD-ROM/XA". Putting graphic files, text and even MPEG-1 video is easily done. Any current CD authoring software and burner should be able to accomplish this task. The big deal about the XA format is that it writes the data track after the audio tracks, otherwise you would put the CD in an audio CD player and the first track would be computer noise that can damage audio equipment..
I mastered CD's for 10 years at a large duplication house. Though I don't master CD's anymore, I still work for a duplication house and could get your CD's done for cost, or at least I will try, I have been discussing this with Neil off the tuning list.
Also, keep in mind that a 74 min. CD can hold approx. 650 megs of data. It is my personal experience that a CD that is filled to the outer rim can have some playback problems on some drives.
John Menich Failsafe Media Company
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