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Reply to Gregg Gibson (and not the only one!)

🔗gbreed@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Breed)

12/13/1997 5:32:47 AM
> Indian singers - see Levy: Intonation in North Indian Music - do not
> seem to use the 22-tone equal at all. They certainly do not sing
> 436-cent major thirds, which occur repeatedly in the melodic texture of
> 22-tone equal, unless very flat fifths of 655 cents are employed. Of
> course the centre of 22-tone equal in India is nowadays supposed to be
> the South.

No Indian theorist I've read ever claimed 22 equal has anything
to do with Indian music. Some mention a 22 note scale, but
most emphasise that it is _not_ equally tempered.

One of the features of traditional Indian thinking is a lack
of historical sense, so everything is considered as the
present and obsolete ideas are not highlighted as such.
South Indian theorists, though, do make a much bigger point
of the 22 srutis. I haven't seen any quantitative research
on the pitch perception of South Indian musicians.

As there is no modulation in Indian music, 436-cents thirds
will never arise, even if you follow Gregg's highly suspect
argument.


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