> To state my own opinion, which is the only one I trust, a just 4:6:7 > chord is more consonant than a major triad in 12 equal. Extending > consonance to the 7-limit means just that -- no further.
In the more usual timbres at least, the 7:6 interval beats too much to be consonant, affected as it is by the unison. The 7:5 is obscured by the fifth and fourth. There is a slightly stronger case for the 7:4, but note that the first partial of the lower tone beats with the fundamental of the upper tone (8:7).
The 7:4 forms dissonant intervals with the consonances of the senario, whereas 8:5 does not (at least not with 6:5 & 4:3).
This is a vast subject however, which can scarcely be treated here on the scale it deserves.
I quite agree that the dissonance or consonance of the septimals proves nothing regarding the undecimal intervals.
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Gregg Gibson wrote: >Bill Alves (quoted by Paul Ehrlich) made a very interesting comment to >the effect that the four chromatic modal genera (scales) comprising 28 >modes, that I have discovered and posted:
Just to set the record straight, I think it was Paul who made this comment -- sometimes the quotes in these posts are hard to follow.
>Gamelan scales >by the way can be very satisfactorily reproduced in 19-tone equal. > If by this you mean that reasonable gamelan scales can be found in 19TET, then I agree. If you mean that gamelan tuners always intuitively aim at some subset of 19TET, then I disagree. (One writer suggested that this was the case with respect to 9TET, but I take great exception to his reasoning.)
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