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JI Pop? Yeah?

🔗"Jonathan M. Szanto" <jszanto@...>

9/16/1997 1:36:22 AM
Hi, kids -- delurking for a sec...

>>Denny Genovese's band plays
>>poppy stuff with a world-music orientation, although it might sometimes
>>cross over the "art" world.
>
> It struck me as closer to the art world, but hey, who's to say where to
>draw that line?

Me. And it's right over there.


No, a little to the left, by the sofa...



I'd say the crux of the matter is just *how* Pop we are talking about: just
as far as the 'art' bands, like Talking Heads or King Crimson (or even Orb,
to an extent...), or are we including the massively pervasive bands?

Come on: it's a nice little thought, but really parallels when I would go
and see some headbanger drummer (who would be the idol of all my drum
students) in a clinic saying "OK, all you budding young lions, you've got
to master 'odd meters' before you can *really* cut it in the big time!".

And when was the last time you heard mainstream Pop being done in anything
resembling odd meters? It was very fun to hear a band approaching BIG TIME
ACCEPTANCE (SoundGarden) doing it, but only on a few songs. I was onstage
at one of their last concerts (friends of the drummer): look out at that
teen spirit, and someone please tell me that the foremost thought in their
collective mind was the intoxicating rush of the 5/4 -- 6/4 measures.

I like what a lot of these people are doing (Neil, Catler and the lot), but
let's get a grip: we are talking one *veeerrrryyy* long evolutionary curve
here...



Or not. By the way, this message was LucyTyped(tm) ;)

Cheers,
Jon
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🔗mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison)

9/16/1997 9:36:50 PM
>the ensoniq is really smart about its tuning stuff. ... the rack chooses
>the appropriate sample based on frequency,
>not on notenumber.

Ah thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou, Ensoniq!

That's been my biggest complaint about the ASR and EPS for ages! I'm
definitely going to have to get me one of them MR racks. Hey, after all,
it's got 88CET init, eh?!



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