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9/11/1997 10:33:59 PM
In a message dated 97-09-09 23:33:19 EDT,
Johnny Reinhard wrote:

> Hi, everybody. I just returned from Camp Rising Sun as a music counselor
> running a microtonal program. The girls (14-17) performed my cello
> concerto Odysseus for the boys camp. 50 instrumentalists and 4 vocalists
> -- each in their own idiosyncratic tuning -- portray the famed journey
> depicted by Homer. Doing it in NYC to positive reviews provided all the
> evidence that the girls needed that my original idea was on solid ground.

In case anybody missed my review of here on Tuning Digest,
it still exists in a group of web pages at
www.virtulink.com/immp/jux/j_index.htm

> If there are any questions about writing for any of these please feel
> comfortable to reply. Look out for a microtonal article in the next Whole
> Earth Magazine. And New Yorkers: there'll be 2 evening broadcasts of the
> best of MicroMay '97 on the New Sounds radio program with John Schaefer
> (WNYC) and yours truly. (Sunday New York Times should have the days,
> though the time for the show is 11 a.m.)

I really wish I knew the exact days...I think the correct time is
really 11PM.

And so the question that I'd like to see answered is:

When is the next AFMM Fest? ;)


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🔗alves@orion.ac.hmc.edu (Bill Alves)

9/12/1997 5:07:39 PM
>I always enjoy the various viewpoints on Indian tunings...it seems to
>me, though, that I have rarely seen the words of one of the Indian master
>musicians themselves on this subject...why, I'm not sure.

There are a number of historical treatises from India on the topic, and
several contemporary Indian writers who have discussed the topic. However,
as in the West, many of these writers seem to be writing from the
perspective of theorists rather than practicing musicians, thus may be
reflecting numerological ideals rather than musical realities. Modern
musicians such as Nazir Jairazbhoy are, of course, exceptions, and I would
certainly recommend his book to this list, which has a significant chapter
on tuning.

Of course most Indian musicians, as Ali Akbar Khan points out, have no need
of standardization. Instruments like the sitar have movable frets, and the
sarod, sarangi, violin, (and voice) of course, have no frets. Only with the
harmonium did the disease of 12TET standardization enter the subcontinent,
and most purists hate it. Nevertheless, it is intriguing to try to discover
either empirically or directly from practicing musicians what their tuning
ideals are. Such information, which may vary from musician to musician, can
still tell us a lot about the music.

> On a related subject, and this is surely not a "scientific" study, I
>have noticed in my dealings this last year with folks who play music from
>other cultures, with non western tunings, that they seem to know very
>little about the subject of tuning, period...it seems to be more
>intuitive than anything else.

As someone else pointed out, this is hardly different from the West.
However, I would caution against jumping to the conclusion that if
musicians are unaware of a theory of ratios or how to count beats then they
are not knowledgable about tuning. I have talked with a few professional
Indonesian tuners who have a very sophisticated ear and who can speak very
knowledgably about different tunings and their effects, but if you were to
ask them about ratios or beats they wouldn't have any idea what you were
talking about. They may speak of tuning by the "rasa" ("feel") of the
sound, but I wouldn't assume such "intuition" (if that's what it is) was
incompatible with systematization or sophistication.

Bill

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