RE: sruti details

Graham Breed wrote:
>> The sixth sruti is 6/5 (or seventh if you start counting at 1) but in
>> this case it would be 1 7 1 4 1 7 1 for just minor thirds (ignoring
>> schismas).

> Is this a criticism or elaboration of my statement? The 6 diaschismic
> steps are r p s p r p. s+r+2p is always a major tone. A diatonic
> semitone is s+p, which is the diaschismic equivalent of r+p. The
> schismic version is r+2p, hence the discrepancy.

I wanted to stress that when one says that a certain number of srutis
is some interval, the interval meant is the one that many positions
away from Sa. Not as criticism because you realize that, but I disagree
with you making diaschismic equivalents. Six sruti steps is not always
a minor third. The six steps in Raga Bhairav there is a diaschisma
smaller than 6/5 as you imply.

Bill Alves wrote:
> I would be very interested in your source for these experiments, if you
> have it handy.

Day, C.R. _The music and musical instruments of Southern India and the
Deccan_. Novello, Ewer and Co., and Adams and Charles Black, London, 1891.
Reprint, Low Price Publications, Delhi, 1990, 181 pages.

Deva, B.C. _The music of India: A scientific study_.
Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi, 1981, 278 pages.

> If the tuning of the srutis is controversial, then how can
> the experimenters have "theoretical values" to check recordings against?

You are right, but maybe not everybody agrees that it's controversial :-).

> interpretation #1 interpretation #2
> (Bhatkande) (Levy)
> 1/1 1/1
> 27/25 27/25
> 9/8 9/8
> 6/5 6/5
> 54/43 72/57
> 4/3 4/3
> 162/113 36/25
> 3/2 3/2
> 18/11 18/11
> 27/16 12/7
> 9/5 9/5
> 81/43 36/19
> 2/1 2/1

Interesting, what stands out is the 18/11 neutral sixth. It also
occurs in the old indian chromatic scale given by Ellis, in Helmholtz,
p. 517.

> Like some of our correspondents, Fox-Strangeways considered Bharata's 4
Typo: Fox-Strangways.

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl



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