Tape Swap Participants

This is the list of people that are participating in the TD Tape Swap.
In no specific order...

Graham Breed
Gary Morrison
Bill Sethares
Randy Winchester
John Starrett
Denny Genovese
Denis Atadan
Charles Lucy
David Finnamore
Allen Strange

and possibly

Neil Havertick


There are a number of people yet to get back to me and, hopefully, some of
those will participate. The musical styles and tunings have been diverse, so
far. If you would like to make it more so send your short pieces, your padded
self-addressed stamped envelope, a blank 90minute cassette and your liner
notes to:

Denis Atadan
13 Washington Street
Newark, DE 19711

postmark deadline is August 30th. all submissions should be on audio cassette
tape. oh, yes, when I receive your tape I will notify you on e-mail.

Thanks again.



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From: androsky@fast.net
Subject: Re: Semitones etc.
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Hi Andrew, et al,

At 04:10 PM 8/20/97 -0700, you wrote (Digest 1159, Topic No. 1):
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:56:51 -0400
>From: "Andrew L. Kaye"
>Subject: Re: Semitones etc.
>
>Re: the debate over nomenclature and the proper definition of terms such
>as semitone vs. half step vs. m2, etc....
>... What we need to do is join in an organized
>endeavor to identify and name all the possible intervals that are
>actually used by human beings...

Ever since I got into just intonation, I've hated the term "half step", and
I kind of hate "semitone" as well, since it means the same thing. I started
calling it "leading tone", but that doesn't sound like the name of an interval.

There's a good table in the Second English Edition of Hermann Helmholtz's
"On the Sensations of Tone". It was added to the book by the translator,
Alexander J. Ellis. It's called "Table of Intervals not exceeding one
Octave" (p. 453). As an example, here's the names it gives for various
"semitones":

cents ratio name
----- ------- ----
70 25/24 Small Semitone
92 135/128 Larger Limma
100 - Equal Semitone
112 16/15 Diatonic Semitone, or Just Semitone
134 27/25 Great Limma

I think the name "Larger Limma" is unfortunate, because it is smaller than
the "Great Limma". Maybe it's best to just call 135/128 this: "135/128".

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>What we need to do is join in an organized
>endeavor to identify and name all the possible intervals that are
>actually used by human beings.

I have seen two renditions of a huge list of historically-significant
intervals. One was from my late mentor in the field, Ivor Darreg. The
other I suspect although I may be mistaken, was posted on the list by
Manuel Op de Coul.

Do I remember correctly, Manuel?


This discussion, however, suggests the need for more than one general
type of term:
1. Terms for intervals with exact values, like what Ivor Darreg and I
personally think to be the preferable definition of a syntonic comma, which
is 81:80.
2. Terms for intervals by ... "mechanism" for lack of a better word, like what
Paul Rapoport feels to be the best definition a syntonic comma: The pitch
difference between dominant of the dominant and the submediant of the
subdominant (or other equivalent formulations). The point here being that
many different tuning systems will each have their own values for syntonic
commas.
3. Terms for intervals by approximate pitch range, like "subminor third",
meaning a third that is roughly mid-way between a minor third and a
diminished third. Some feel that semitone and quartertone fit in this
category rather than the first.
4. A special case, but an important one, of #3: Terms for intervals ideal
intervals and their approximations, the obvious example being "perfect
fifth", meaning 3:2 and its various historically-significant approximations.



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Yes, that would have been me. It's not really a list of
historically significant intervals but of intervals that have an
exact ratio. One can find it under
ftp://ella.mills.edu/ccm/tuning/papers/int_names.txt .
There's also a Dutch and French version and one with a handful
of Latin names.

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl



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