back to list

A useful new page

🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...>

6/27/1997 10:55:00 AM
All-
I have just added a link to John Loffink's page. In his words, the
content of:

The Microtonal Synthesis Home Page

A listing of all synthesizers, samplers, sound cards and software
synthesizers capable of user programmable microtonal
scales or tunings: just intonation, non-12 equal tempered,
well-tempered scales, xenharmonics, etc. Information on types
and number of scales is also given. Samples of microtonal music
using modern electronic instruments can be found by
checking out the artists in Recommended Listening

It seems quite useful, and the recommended listening could become a
valuable resource.

John Loffink's page is at
http://www.homefree.net/cgi-shl/dbml.exe?templateomefree/view.dbm&pageidy72


Later, gang.

John Starrett
http:/www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret/microtone.html

Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl
with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:58 +0200
Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA13195; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:58:51 +0200
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:58:51 +0200
Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA13175
Received: (qmail 18217 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1997 17:56:55 -0000
Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1)
by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jun 1997 17:56:55 -0000
Message-Id:
Errors-To: madole@mills.edu
Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu
Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu
Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu

🔗mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison)

6/29/1997 11:13:28 AM
>I have always used the term "limit" as if it were really "prime
>limit", and I think I am probably not the only person who sees
>things this way.

I too am inclined to see it as primes rather than odds, although I don't
claim to but a little bit of experimental basis for that.

The underlying principle for using odds, as I understand it (this is
coming from Dave Hill who changed his opinion from primes to odds), is that
octaves duplicate harmony, so anything that doesn't involve a factor of two
will produce a nonduplicate harmony.

That makes sense under the assumption that there are no recognizable and
compoundable qualities of 3, 5, 7, or other primes. That is to say that,
for example stacks of 3:1s or of 5:1s, do NOT have distinctive properties
of their own other than the duplication property of two. I think they do
based upon 27:16 compared to 5:3: 27:16, to my ears, still has the steely
cold, brazen sensation of a fifth or fourth, whereas 5:3 has a genuine
sweetness to it.

But I personally am not very firmly commited to that premise. I think
it's quite clear that two other qualities of an interval are much more
significant than this prime- or odd-number basis idea:
* The size of the interval. No matter factors you put into a major sixth
they'll all be much more alike than any tritone for example.
* The simplicity of the frequency relationship (ratio) they come closest to.

And "closest to" here is another question, and a complex one. It
harkens WAAAAAAYYY back to a conversation on the list a long time ago
shortly after I joined, about how far off you can be from a given ideal
ratio before it becomes clearly something else in its own right rather than
a "bad" version of that interval.

Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl
with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:19 +0200
Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA20959; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:20:05 +0200
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:20:05 +0200
Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA20896
Received: (qmail 9253 invoked from network); 29 Jun 1997 20:19:48 -0000
Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1)
by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jun 1997 20:19:48 -0000
Message-Id: <970629161837_-1327393451@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Errors-To: madole@mills.edu
Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu
Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu
Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu