TUNING digest 1017

>
> Considering that there's about 120dB between the threshold of hearing
> and theshold of pain, it's probably pretty safe to say that a 60-year-old
> is barely able to hear anything above about 12KHz. And based on this
> information, I doubt if even a 30-year-old is likely to hear much at 22KHz.

i hooked a fader to frequency in kyma (the world's most expensive tone
generator?) and played around with the limits of my hearing. i'm 27, in good
physical shape, and have no hearing conditions that i'm aware of, although i
get hayfever, which tends to congest the whole ears/nose/throat system. my
hearing seemed to fade out around high 16- to low-17 khz. the transition from
"i definitely hear a high-pitched tone" to "i maybe sense some sort of sound"
is
fascinating. i wonder if anybody has played with real-time visual tests of
light frequencies escaping the threshold of perception?

marcus

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On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:46:44 -0800 Gary Morrison said:
> . . . because the best model of the Universe we know has
>nothing in the slightest to do with Astrology. But I certainly won't rule
>out the possibility categorically.

The first quoted phrase is true and sensible. There is no need, however,
to hold out via the final sentence. Astrology is mumbo-jumbo, it has nothing
to do with any reality: science, music, our tunings, etc. The ancient
attempts at detecting a true Music of the Spheres was flawed due to its
basic assumptions, which were based on fabled common belief rather than
demonstrated proof of reality.
-- Brian Belet

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somebody wrote:
>> > Carl Sagan's refutation of astrology: the gravitational force of the
>> > obstetrician is greater than that of a moon or planet, at the momentof
>> > your birth. 8-)>

This is true, but why must any effects be gravitational? When you turn
on your TV or radio, the e/m field associated with the light in your
room and your body emmanations vastly exceed the e/m waves of the TV
channel or radio station (your gravitational effect is greater too :-)
And yet you can pick it up quite clearly! It is all a matter of
resonance and tuning.

>> my impression of the field is that there are forces much larger/deeper
>> that act on all things, including the stars and planets used by
>> astrologers.

Too right!

Gary Morrison
> As you would expect for a scientist, Sagan's response to that sort of
>claim would have been, "can you identify and characterize those alleged
>forces?"

To some extent.

> "As it turns out, Astrologers can't even agree among themselves what a
>given horoscope means. In careful tests they have been unable to predict
>the lives of people about whom they know only the time and place of birth.

You are right. Most astrologers cannot do astrology properly. However
there are some very real effects which have been demonstrated by Michel
Gauquelin and a few others. Astrology was bastardised about 2500 years
ago to make money from innocents and has been that way ever since.

> And besides how could it possibly work? How could the rising of Marsat
>the time of my birth affect me, then or now? I was born in a closed room.
>Light from Mars couldn't affect me. The only influence of Mars that could
>have had any effect upon me was its gravity. But the gravitational
>attraction of the obstetrician was much greater than the gravitation of
>Mars. Mars is more massive, but he obstetrician was a lot closer."

Forget gravity. There are many low frequency e/m waves in the solar
system. I believe that these are responsible for, amoung other things,
the location of the planets. See the diagram at
http://www.kcbbs.gen.nz/users/rtomes/plan-wav.gif which shows the
planetary distances in relation to two periods of e/m waves, 160 and 6
minutes. These periods also appear as oscillations in the sun.
There is evidence that such periods exist as strong e/m waves.

Low frequency waves also affect humans. This is a fact. I am talking 1
to 100 Hz here, but I expect there to be harmonics of the 160 and 6
minute waves present in the solar system also.

Gauquelin's very scientific work definitely shows (and has been
replicated) that the position of a planet relative to the horizon
(not the stars) at the moment of birth is related to profession and
personality. It has subsequently been proven (through inherited
planetary configurations) that the pre-existing nature of the child
chooses this moment rather than the position causing the child to be
something. So the child sort of says "this signal is my cue".

I agree that you will find very little benefit from astrology as it is
practiced.

-- Ray Tomes -- rtomes@kcbbs.gen.nz -- Harmonics Theory --
http://www.kcbbs.gen.nz/users/rtomes/rt-home.htm

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On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Brian Belet wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:46:44 -0800 Gary Morrison said:
> > . . . because the best model of the Universe we know has
> >nothing in the slightest to do with Astrology. But I certainly won't rule
> >out the possibility categorically.
>
> The first quoted phrase is true and sensible. There is no need, however,
> to hold out via the final sentence. Astrology is mumbo-jumbo, it has nothing
> to do with any reality: science, music, our tunings, etc. The ancient
> attempts at detecting a true Music of the Spheres was flawed due to its
> basic assumptions, which were based on fabled common belief rather than
> demonstrated proof of reality.
> -- Brian Belet
>
There is probably not a police department in the world that would not
attest to the fact that at the time of the full moon that crime and
unusual behavior are more prevalent and yet I am unaware of any
"scientific" explanation of the "fact". We should not so categorically
dismiss ancient understandings of things, IMHO ;).

Bruce Kanzelmeyer


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"There is probably not a police department in the world that would not
attest to the fact that at the time of the full moon that crime and
unusual behavior are more prevalent and yet I am unaware of any
"scientific" explanation of the "fact". "


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This is rather off the subject of xenharmonics I realize, but gosh,
there no dirth of possible rational explantions there. One is that it's
easier to go about various forms of crime when night is brigher. Another
is that there is mythology about full moons that may make people more prone
to want to do "naughty" things.

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Don't discredit what you have no personal experience or understanding of...
that kind of thinking has caused much unnecessary conflict and suffering
for many - who says the world is round, and that it orbits the sun? Just
because something does not fit into our limited perspective of the world
does not mean it is invalid.

Astrology, on a fundamental level is a interpreted symbolic language of
spacetime vibrations (MUSIC!!!)... It is a cosmology, a system for
understanding the universe and our role in it, and a powerful tool /
metaphor for personal / musical development. The planets (instruments)
vibrate their influence in the environment, each following their own path,
each relating differently to each other depending on the aspects formed...
As for viewing things in terms of the 4 elements (physicality / emotions /
thoughts / archetypal or spiritual), if you are caught up in materialism or
the abstract you are missing out on much of the richness of life.

Carl G Jung spoke of syncronicity, "An acausal connecting principle".
Through scientific investigation he determined that the more one looks into
astrology, the more sense it makes. As modern science states, everything is
relative to the observer, and our beliefs in the world tend to shape our
perception of it.

How can the rising of Mars affect ones life? All things are interconnected
in the "multidimentional universal set". A horoscope is a symbolic
spacetime map / mandala of the vibrations acting on you at the time of your
birth, which tends to influence you into expressing your impressed quality
of vibrations. From birth onwards the environment and free will gradually
evolve this set into its current form. It is much to simplistic to view
astrology as the influence of "gravitational fields".

Humanity has worked with astrology for at least 6000 years, so maybe there
is something to it?

Damien Everett,
Manager and Creative Director, Maestro Multimedia Enterprises.

Business homepage http://www.maestro.spirit.com.au
ACT music page http://www.maestro.spirit.com.au/ACTmusic.html
Personal homepage http://www.spirit.com.au/~damien/
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