In search of tuning paper

While doing some research on the Bohlen-Pierce scale recently, I came
across the following reference:

M. V. Mathews, L. A. Roberts, and J. R. Pierce, "Four new scales based
on nonsuccessive-integer-ratio chords," Journal of the Acoustical
Society of America 75, S10(A) (1984).

Upon tracking down this reference at the library, I was dismayed to find
that it only refers to an abstract of a paper presented at the 107th
Meeting of the Acoustical Society of America. I have been unsuccessful
so far in locating the complete paper. Can someone on the list point me
to where I might find the full paper? If anyone actually possesses this
paper, can you contact me directly about obtaining a photocopy of it?

Many thanks,
John

---
John G. Pusey xen@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/xen/jgp.html



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" Each chemical
element is uniquely identifiable in the electromagnetic specturm by its
special set of unique frequencies. These frequency sets interact to
produce
more
complexly unique cycle frequencies, which are unheard by human ear
but which resonate just as do humanly hearable musical chords or
dissonances."


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Interesting... It would be curious to hear the chords produced by the
absorption patterns of various chemical elements and compounds, after
transposing them down some enormous number of octaves.

Were I to guess though, it would be little more than a curiosity. I
personally doubt if they would have any particularly significant meaning to
our ears. The two physical/physiological mechanisms are far too unrelated
for there to be much correlation.

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Gary Morrison wrote:

> Interesting... It would be curious to hear the chords produced by the
>absorption patterns of various chemical elements and compounds, after
>transposing them down some enormous number of octaves.

> Were I to guess though, it would be little more than a curiosity. I
>personally doubt if they would have any particularly significant meaningto
>our ears. The two physical/physiological mechanisms are far too unrelated
>for there to be much correlation.

For the simple part of the Hydrogen spectrum explained by Rydberg etc,
the frequency ratios are 1:4:9:16... which would be quite pleasant and
under some circumstances the differences between these frequencies also
(3, 7, 9, 12, etc) which is still quite tolerable.

For heavier elements like Iron which have many many more frequencies I
suspect that it would sound like heavy metal :-)

Hey, I got to crack that joke twice in 3 days (I used at the anvil
chorus on Saturday). There was a big concert for the opening of a large
new stadium near here (mainly for rugby). The highlight of the night
(which was all very spectacular) was when they did the "Dance of the
Diggers" to honour the people who worked on the project. This consisted
of two large digging machines, lit by an erie light against the dark
sky, doing a wonderfully elegant dance to the music of Swan Lake. They
did an amazing job and at the end the digger operaters took a bow in
full evening dress. They got an ovation.

In another post in this thread, based on my statement:
>" If the substance of the universe, the aether, is taken as a
>medium then the speed of sound in the aether is what we know as light
>The aether is very high tensile stuff). So these two statements are in
>agreement."

Gary Morrison wrote:
> I suppose there's not much point in getting into the well-accepted fact
>that the aether has been found not to exist in any physical sense, or at
>least not as the medium that light "makes waves in" as it was originally
>theorized.

It is only well accepted by people who don't understand it. The people
who made the dicoveries that are supposed to have discredited the ether,
namely Einstein, Michelson, Lorentz etc, all continued to believe in an
ether. If you doubt this, read Einstein's speech on the subject
delivered in 1920. It is on the WWW, just search for "einstein ether".
There is no reason not to believe in an ether (except fashion).

-- Ray Tomes -- rtomes@kcbbs.gen.nz -- Harmonics Theory --
http://www.kcbbs.gen.nz/users/rtomes/rt-home.htm

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> ... or the simple part of the Hydrogen spectrum explained by Rydberg etc,
> the frequency ratios are 1:4:9:16... which would be quite pleasant and
..

When I commented that I doubt if the absorption frequencies of chemical
elements would (taken down many octaves) have any particular significance
to our ears, I elected, in the interest of brevity, not to add "unless they
coincidentally match something known to be significant to our ears", like
harmonic relationships.

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