Explanation of Islamic Orthodoxy - Kindly ask your questions, don't dispute or clamber over me like lunatics again, lest I leave at once

Shiism is Islamic Heterodoxy, we Sunnis are Orthodox Islamic. We are far more `ruthless` in fundamentalism and thus truer to the legacy of our Prophet Muhammed Sallallahualeyhiwassellim. The Shia believe in governance by the blood of the prophetic line, we believe in governance by meritocratic election. The Shia seperatists believe in a saviour (Mahdi) and worship their saints, we believe in salvation through our faith in Allah only. Our Shariah was done away with after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, and since then, we are not allowed to practice our religion openly. Our degeneration is a sight to behold. We are judicially oppressed by secular states or so-called Islamic ones who follow the dictates of the `Big Brother`. Or did you for a moment imagine that Taliban and Wahhabis represented Sunni Islam? These barbaric dolts were reared up by Dr. Frankensteins and are an embarrasment to our religion.

From the ashes, we shall be reborn,
We, whose hearts prayers adorn.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kraig Grady
To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 02 Kas�m 2005 �ar�amba 5:29
Subject: Re: [metatuning] The Pentagon's New Map

actually , from my understanding is that the shi'ites are quite far from
the orthodox Islamic. comparable to the gnostics sects of christianity.
This brand of islam strongly influenced by madean philosophy.
Ozan is free to correct me if i m wrong.
Actually i am quite interested in knowing more about the different
branches of this religion

Kraig Grady wrote:

>agreed . but nothin like dem texas bar-be-cutions!!!!
>yeehaw~!!!!!
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>Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
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>>On Tuesday 01 November 2005 3:17 pm, Kraig Grady wrote:
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>>>i would say that these wars happen because of the intrusion of the
>>>so-called powers to be fighting over control of it.
>>>I mean where do the weapons and money to fight these wars come from,
>>>
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>>>from the outside.
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>>>Also what about WW2 ? these areas were relatively peaceful at this time
>>>, mainly because no one had time to mess with them.
>>>is there more crime in tehran or detroit?
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>>well, maybe it's fractal: the U.S. has it's oltra-poor ultra-violent pockets
>>like Detroit.
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>>The flipside of the Tehran question is that when you have ultra-orthodox
>>Islam, you have people getting their hands cut off for stealing a pack of
>>gum.
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>>>Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
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>>>>I read the book....it's really great and I think he's onto something.
>>>>
>>>>The book is a bit repetitive, but the central idea, summed up as
>>>>'connetivity is power', is a powerful one, as well as jiving with
>>>>intuition.
>>>>
>>>>He came up with his central idea by putting push pins into a map of the
>>>>world where all the violence and poverty was, and asking himself: What
>>>>unites all these places? The answer was a lack of free flow of money,
>>>>ideas, information, and a prevalance of religious fundamentalism.
>>>>
>>>>I think he has a website, too, where you can read about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Aaron.
>>>>
>>>>On Tuesday 01 November 2005 1:55 pm, Dante Rosati wrote:
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>>>>>Hey Kraig-
>>>>>
>>>>>I saw a presentation on CSPAN by this thinktank guy Barnett who wrote
>>>>>"The Pentagon's New Map" dividing the world into the "functioning core"
>>>>>- N America, Europe, most of Asia and India, some of S America, and the
>>>>>"non-integrating gap" - all of middle east and africa, central and south
>>>>>america, southeast asia.
>>>>>
>>>>>The idea being the "functioning core" has a free flow of information,
>>>>>people and money, and less violence. The "non integrating gap" is where
>>>>>all the wars happen, poverty, disease genocide, etc. So its about how to
>>>>>get the gap areas integrated. Unfortunately the guy is basically pretty
>>>>>conservative and militaristic, but his ideas are apparantly taken
>>>>>seriously in the pentagon.
>>>>>
>>>>>ANYWAY- after the presentation, someone in the audience asked him what he
>>>>>thought was at the root of the difference between the two groupings and
>>>>>he said that in the gap countries, the men's fear of losing control of
>>>>>their women was the single unifying factor. In all those islamic and
>>>>>backwater countries, they are terrified of western TV with its depiction
>>>>>of free women, terrified of their own women wanting the same freedoms.
>>>>>Pretty interesting idea that the root of hatred of the west is fear of
>>>>>women's lib, but it makes alot of sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: metatuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:metatuning@yahoogroups.com]On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Kraig Grady
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:36 PM
>>>>>>To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [metatuning] Re: back to
>>>>>>you-scratch-my-libertarian-back-I'll-scratch-your-anarcho-syndicalist-ba
>>>>>>ck on metatuning
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>i have actually thought that the true psychological purpose of this
>>>>>>conflict is to prevent the females in these societies from gaining
>>>>>>power. Such conflict makes it easy for both sides to keep them down
>>>>>>under a mutually understood stance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ambassadorbob wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Monday 31 October 2005 2:50 pm, Carl Lumma wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>I wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>On the world scale, though, what's happening is
>>>>>>>>>>>Christionaity (or Judeo-Christianity) vs. Islam.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>My problem with this (besides reading a bit of apocalypticism into it)
>>>>>>>is that it seems like a yet another vast oversimplification, and
>>>>>>>simply facilitates and perpetuates the ideological manipulations and
>>>>>>>distractions that power usurpers require.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To recite the real anarchist 'chapter and verse', we don't
>>>>>>>need "empowerment", we need disempowerment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>P
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Kraig Grady
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>>>>>>The Wandering Medicine Show
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