Re: [metatuning] Digest Number 1197

[Kraig Grady wrote:]
> Just what is there to pay attention to out there
> anyways [???]

Hey, Kraig,

That's FUNNY!

Yeah, actually I think a lot of what goes on in medicine (or should I say the drug business?) these days is "pathologizing" behaviors that really aren't unusual, or making up a "disease" for someone who's just weird. :-)

But I noticed some info in some research (that I got started on from seeing that movie) where they were sort of saying the same thing as that movie, as far as being able to set your own tone with a little self-examination. (And I was reminded of what Marilyn Manson astutely said to Michael Moore in Bowling for Columbine, when asked what he would say to those kids in Columbine. He said, I wouldn't SAY anything, I'd just listen to them (which probably no one ever did!). John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) once said in an interview, "You don't need therapy, you just need to read a good book!" Hee!

It reminds me of what I heard (from you, I think) about Euripides being more or less revered, precisely (in part) BECAUSE of his eccentricity, reclusiveness, etc. which were taken by the Greeks as normal for someone of intense creativity. Is that something I can find anywhere? Or do you remember where you picked up on it?

"Manic happiness"?

Is that part of the subliminal (?) viciousness, 1950's style, that seems to lurk under the more or less civil veneer of "conservative" America? Or is it more a common pathology of how [we?] have to live with [ourselves?] these days as war-mongers and profiteers?

metatuning@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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yes just what is there to be happy about. is the world better and is it improving or even just things here. hell no. a visa to go to canada and mexico?
There are lots of things i am am happy about, and lots of things i can enjoy.
But i just can't walk around with a smile everyday and say things are good, even though this is what everyone is doing.
many of these problems are environmental and have nothing to do with the person at all. people go to therapy for 10 years, they move and it all goes away.
we live in this warped belief that there is no outside world, just our right or wrong attitude"
well the reality is that the europeans are building the airbus, putting boeing down the tubes, hitting us with a 15% tariff and our cars are all being made elsewhere.
you can pretend that everything is fine and dandy but there is nothing is made here anymore ( except the propaganda machine to paint smiles on our faces) .
The cost of housing merely reflects to what the dollar has lost in value on the international market. and with that how do you pay back a billion a week on a war against children.
The writing is right on the wall. now smile

Pete McRae wrote:

> "Manic happiness"?
>
> >Is that part of the subliminal (?) viciousness, 1950's style, that seems to lurk under the more or less civil veneer of "conservative" America? Or is it more a common pathology of how [we?] have to live with [ourselves?] these days as war-mongers and profiteers? >
> >

Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
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> There are lots of things i am am happy about, and lots of
> things i can enjoy. But i just can't walk around with a
> smile everyday and say things are good, even though this
> is what everyone is doing. many of these problems are
> environmental and have nothing to do with the person at all.
//
> we live in this warped belief that there is no outside
> world, just our right or wrong attitude"

Hi Kraig,

I've wrestled with this question for a long time. It isn't
just a European idea -- many Eastern thinkers suggest looking
inward. There's great truth to this. But it's never clear
where to draw the line. Obviously if everybody just considered
all problems to be internal, there'd be no way to fix a real
problem if one did come up. So much of what I see seems like
a nightmare come true -- the isolation of industrial life...
overcompetition, advertisements, cities that are forbidden to
provide free wireless internet access for their citizens by
rules lobbied into law at the State level by big telephone
companies (who are all about "competition" until some actually
arrives -- then it's a threat to the fabric of society). People
locked away for years for using marijuana. Kids raised in
"the projects" at such a disadvantage, if one does want the
job, house, etc.

Earlier tonight some friends and I stumbled upon an old Kodak
slide projector from, probably the '50s. It was amazing.
They really *don't* make *anything* like that any more. There's
nice stuff to be bought if you're rich, but even the rich can't
buy craftsmanship like this. Sadly, Kodak no longer makes
projectors (as of 2003 or 2004).

A big part of the trouble, I believe, is people not being able
to start families at what I see as a biologically normal age --
early 20s. Or maybe it's just a lack of touch in general.
Yeah, I think I'd decided that was it.

Thanks for listening,

-Carl