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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/10/2005 12:04:43 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/secondworldwar/story/0,14058,1386675,00.html
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🔗Dante Rosati <dante@...>

1/10/2005 7:07:35 PM

hey, I like this guy! check out his 1964 album "Spiritual Unity":

http://nagarjuna.onlinestoragesolution.com/Ayler%20Spiritual%20Unity/

Dante

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/10/2005 7:29:09 PM

I hear the box set is amazing BTW
even has him playin at Coltranes funeral!

Dante Rosati wrote:

>hey, I like this guy! check out his 1964 album "Spiritual Unity":
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🔗Jon Szanto <jonszanto@...>

1/10/2005 10:39:07 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati" <dante@i...> wrote:
> hey, I like this guy! check out his 1964 album "Spiritual Unity":

Oh yeah. I first heard Ayler about the time I discovered the Art
Ensemble of Chicago, back in the mid-(cough)-70's. Where is that
spirit of adventure today?

Cheers,
Jon

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

1/11/2005 2:09:38 PM

Kraig Grady wrote:

>I hear the box set is amazing BTW
> even has him playin at Coltranes funeral!
>
>
I've heard a bit of the box, I'll have to give it a closer listen.
I think he's amazing, I didn't "get" Ayler 'til last Summer. Now I hear
him in the context of what Anthony Braxton calls the post-Ayler continuum,
which I translate to mean Aylers influence on the Jazz tradition. I don't
think many sax players post-Ayler would sound like they do if
Ayler never existed.

Keeping dry Kraig? How is our buddy on N.Las Palmas doing?
I hope is all OK.

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/11/2005 7:54:34 PM

We are dry and Rod didn't mention water at all when i talked with him today. Tried going for a hike in the hills but mudslides had washed out a path and it looked to unstable to walk on.
Hope the east coast is not too cold. good time to write some music

David Beardsley wrote:

>Kraig Grady wrote:
>
> >
>>I hear the box set is amazing BTW
>>even has him playin at Coltranes funeral!
>>
>>
>> >>
>I've heard a bit of the box, I'll have to give it a closer listen.
>I think he's amazing, I didn't "get" Ayler 'til last Summer. Now I hear
>him in the context of what Anthony Braxton calls the post-Ayler continuum,
>which I translate to mean Aylers influence on the Jazz tradition. I don't
>think many sax players post-Ayler would sound like they do if
>Ayler never existed.
>
>Keeping dry Kraig? How is our buddy on N.Las Palmas doing?
>I hope is all OK.
>
> >

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🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

1/12/2005 4:47:14 PM

Kraig Grady wrote:

>We are dry and Rod didn't mention water at all when i talked with him >today. Tried going for a hike in the hills but mudslides had washed out >a path and it looked to unstable to walk on.
> >
That''s wild. Good to hear Rod is OK.

> Hope the east coast is not too cold. good time to write some music
> >
Not now. I'm hoping this is going to be a mild winter. Now
that the holidays are over I'm back to writing music again.

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🔗daniel_anthony_stearns <daniel_anthony_stearns@...>

1/16/2005 9:08:56 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Szanto" <jonszanto@y...>
wrote:
>
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati" <dante@i...>
wrote:
> > hey, I like this guy! check out his 1964 album "Spiritual Unity":
>
> Oh yeah. I first heard Ayler about the time I discovered the Art
> Ensemble of Chicago, back in the mid-(cough)-70's. Where is that
> spirit of adventure today?
> Cheers,
> Jon

It's out of fashion. Musicianship's in though... woowhoo! Orthodoxy
and timidity has pulled the musical horizon in, way in. And it's no
different in the more "serious" musics than it is in pop music,
actually it's on the whole a hell of a lot worse because musics like
jazz and classical suppose to be so much more. The wolves are at the
door... and if you acquiesce, they'll iron the wrinkles right out of
your imagination before you even know it was yours. I guess I'm a
little cranky, but the way I see it--barring some future cultural
seachange--the fight is over. Orthodoxy and conservatism have won the
day. Musicianship's better than ever though... whoopee! Notes and
chops and chops and notes and all the other tools in the toolbox and
paints on the palette... they're all the rage, and the more emphasis
that's put on them the less the collective consensus even bothers to
look at the rest of the job. Welcome to the future.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/16/2005 10:10:29 PM

some almost random thoughts and directions in the spirit of opening up a dialogue on this.
This is an interesting Phenomenon. The increase in Musicianship with the less adventurous spirit. I think we might be missing it cause i think we have ran the gambit of possible things that that are going to knock up over the head. More often than not i feel people would not recognize innovation if they listen to it everyday. Everything is neatly cataloged after a few seconds into predetermined 'influences. I think there is a hellava lot of innovation just on these couple of list. Just know one recognizes it. Then again there is the whole subject of novelty anyways. Novelty for novelties sake is in the end maybe just shallow and i think this is where audiences have gotten to. Innovation now might possibly only how one completely engages a whole audience as opposed to just one aspect of them. I mean engage them as if they are a whole person with diverse aspects going on and as someone confronted with the mysteries of life. We live in a world that no humans have ever lived before and we experience new emotions. Ones that have never existed before due to our condition in this world. how much more adventursomeness can we take when we haven't even processed what we are experiences right now.
This is all fragmented and no the race is not over yet cause the conservatives can only go so far before what they wish to return to is no longer there. Banking is now 24 hours a day, they can't go back to a time when the word stopped when the sun went down. Look at Dick Chaneys daughter, the world has forced dick to have a stance he might no wish to, but he has no choice. The conservative world is destroyed and it is only a matter of time before the facade falls off the front of the buildings.
i could also talk about the preoccupation of 'career' over 'activity' in the field. Composers are required to be merchants, basically small business men, just to exist as a composer. But how is this possible without it effecting the art that one can produce. Can music be done as just a pure 'activity' without desire for profit or position. i really don't have an answer to any of these , but then again the demand for answers , and how to fix it, is probably part of the 'business as usual' that we find ourselves in.
daniel_anthony_stearns wrote:

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Szanto" <jonszanto@y...> >wrote:
> >
>>--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati" <dante@i...> >> >>
>wrote:
> >
>>>hey, I like this guy! check out his 1964 album "Spiritual Unity":
>>> >>>
>>Oh yeah. I first heard Ayler about the time I discovered the Art
>>Ensemble of Chicago, back in the mid-(cough)-70's. Where is that
>>spirit of adventure today?
>>Cheers,
>>Jon
>> >>
>
>It's out of fashion. Musicianship's in though... woowhoo! Orthodoxy >and timidity has pulled the musical horizon in, way in. And it's no >different in the more "serious" musics than it is in pop music, >actually it's on the whole a hell of a lot worse because musics like >jazz and classical suppose to be so much more. The wolves are at the >door... and if you acquiesce, they'll iron the wrinkles right out of >your imagination before you even know it was yours. I guess I'm a >little cranky, but the way I see it--barring some future cultural >seachange--the fight is over. Orthodoxy and conservatism have won the >day. Musicianship's better than ever though... whoopee! Notes and >chops and chops and notes and all the other tools in the toolbox and >paints on the palette... they're all the rage, and the more emphasis >that's put on them the less the collective consensus even bothers to >look at the rest of the job. Welcome to the future.
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🔗Dante Rosati <dante@...>

1/16/2005 10:13:11 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4180087.stm

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/16/2005 11:22:28 PM

At a minimum, the propaganda war against the Iran has begun.
definitely written for them to read it
interesting the statement referring to the 'civilians' inside the pentagon, does that mean the military is against it? or what

Dante Rosati wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4180087.stm
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🔗Jon Szanto <jonszanto@...>

1/16/2005 11:35:30 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_anthony_stearns"
<daniel_anthony_stearns@y...> wrote:
> It's out of fashion. Musicianship's in though... woowhoo! Orthodoxy
> and timidity has pulled the musical horizon in, way in. And it's no
> different in the more "serious" musics than it is in pop music,
> actually it's on the whole a hell of a lot worse because musics like
> jazz and classical suppose to be so much more.

Heh. You're telling *me*? I'm the guy that stands there on the
orchestra stage every week, wondering what the hell I'm doing. I see
the current crop of people that have won auditions, and with few
exceptions, they are bloodless technicians. Or little divas who don't
know the difference between artistry and self-indulgeance.

Oh, don't get me started...

Cheers,
Jon

(I'm sure the same can be said of all the Berklee babies...)

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

1/18/2005 10:43:22 AM

http://newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact

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