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Re: Three hares

🔗Robert Walker <robertwalker@...>

11/16/2004 5:24:41 PM

Hi there,

An interesting radio program on BBC radio today
in UK about a symbol that has travelled back and
forth through Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, and Christianity
and seems to express a wisdom and understanding that
all those great religions found in this symbol.

Radio program link here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/hares.shtml
then if you follow the link to the three
hares project you can see loads of images
of it from different cultures.

It's a female image, and perhaps a good one
to contemplate in these troubled times
of violence, maybe it can help to suggest
gentler ways of handling things.

Robert

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

11/16/2004 5:42:12 PM

> An interesting radio program on BBC radio today
> in UK about a symbol that has travelled back and
> forth through Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, and Christianity
> and seems to express a wisdom and understanding that
> all those great religions found in this symbol.
>
> Radio program link here:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/hares.shtml
> then if you follow the link to the three
> hares project you can see loads of images
> of it from different cultures.

http://www.chrischapmanphotography.com/hares/

Cool!

> It's a female image,

Howso?

-Carl

🔗Robert Walker <robertwalker@...>

11/16/2004 6:35:03 PM

Hi Carl,

> Howso?

It was speculative as the researchers hadn't
found anyone who knew or wrote about the
symbolism, not of the earlier versions of the
symbol. They went to China in hope of finding
out the original meaning but they only
found more speculation there rather than definitive
versions of what it meant originally.
Though they did find it was sometimes
shown as three deer rather than three
hares - with typical deer's hooves rather than
hare's paws. Deer are a Buddhist symbol
though I forget the meaning of them.

There were one or two late attributions.
Sorry I probably missed out a
qualifier. I suppose though that it
seems kind of a gentle image to me
anyway so that much of the female
attribution - Ah yes - there was lots
more in the talk too now I remember.
An early pagan association of hares
with feminity. At that point they were
talking about Celtic associations or
at least pre-christian European, and I'm
not quite sure how that fits with the
Mongol empire part of the story.

You have to listen to the talk. I will garble it if I
try to say any more of it from memory.

BTW there are a couple more images here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/devon/faith/2004/ancient_symbols.shtml

One of the researcher's universities has a page
about it:

http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/pages/view.asp?page=9894

Robert

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

11/16/2004 11:12:08 PM

> Hi Carl,
>
> > Howso?
>
> It was speculative as the researchers hadn't
> found anyone who knew or wrote about the
> symbolism, not of the earlier versions of the
> symbol. They went to China in hope of finding
> out the original meaning but they only
> found more speculation there rather than definitive
> versions of what it meant originally.
> Though they did find it was sometimes
> shown as three deer rather than three
> hares - with typical deer's hooves rather than
> hare's paws. Deer are a Buddhist symbol
> though I forget the meaning of them.
>
> There were one or two late attributions.
> Sorry I probably missed out a
> qualifier. I suppose though that it
> seems kind of a gentle image to me
> anyway so that much of the female
> attribution - Ah yes - there was lots
> more in the talk too now I remember.
> An early pagan association of hares
> with feminity. At that point they were
> talking about Celtic associations or
> at least pre-christian European, and I'm
> not quite sure how that fits with the
> Mongol empire part of the story.
>
> You have to listen to the talk. I will garble it if I
> try to say any more of it from memory.
>
> BTW there are a couple more images here.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/devon/faith/2004/ancient_symbols.shtml
>
> One of the researcher's universities has a page
> about it:
>
> http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/pages/view.asp?page=9894

Thanks for the notes, Robert. I haven't had a chance to
listen to the talk yet, as I've been at work.

-Carl

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

11/18/2004 11:37:27 PM

it relates to the triple moon godess is structure of design which was a drawing og three godessses all sharing one brest so, like the ears you have only three. it comes out basically as a trangle in a circle design. The HAre was also related to the triple goddes because of its triagluar shaped teeth and its litters of three. like the pig it was taboo to eat in the holy land region and other varios cultures. Was considered also a royal animal as it was carried into battle by more than one king. Also it association with the love-chase. (from Robert Graves- the white goddess

Carl Lumma wrote:

> >
>>An interesting radio program on BBC radio today
>>in UK about a symbol that has travelled back and
>>forth through Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, and Christianity
>>and seems to express a wisdom and understanding that
>>all those great religions found in this symbol.
>>
>>Radio program link here:
>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/hares.shtml
>>then if you follow the link to the three
>>hares project you can see loads of images
>>of it from different cultures.
>> >>
>
>http://www.chrischapmanphotography.com/hares/
>
>Cool!
> > >
>>It's a female image,
>> >>
>
>Howso?
>
>-Carl
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Kraig Grady
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🔗Robert Walker <robertwalker@...>

11/19/2004 7:00:02 AM

Hi Kraig,

Thanks for all thoe details about the three hares
symbol :-).

Robert