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🔗Manuel Op de Coul <manuel.op.de.coul@...>

8/23/2004 3:25:26 AM

"Ashcroft Orders Libraries To Destroy Copies Of Laws -
Federal Statutes On Asset Forfeiture May Not Be Published

In another move towards federal tyranny, the Attorney General
John Ashcroft has ordered the American Library Association to
destroy all copies of the federal laws on asset forfeiture and
to deny access to those laws to the general public.

The unprecedented move, in which US citizens would be unable to
read or know the text of the laws they are expected to obey,
was another stage in the growing power of President George W Bush."

http://www.theamericanchronicle.net

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@...>

8/23/2004 3:57:54 AM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel Op de Coul"
<manuel.op.de.coul@e...> wrote:

> The unprecedented move, in which US citizens would be unable to
> read or know the text of the laws they are expected to obey,
> was another stage in the growing power of President George W Bush."
>
> http://www.theamericanchronicle.net

Ashcroft is dangerous, but hysteria won't help:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41220-2004Aug4.html

🔗Manuel Op de Coul <manuel.op.de.coul@...>

8/23/2004 5:55:19 AM

>Ashcroft is dangerous, but hysteria won't help

Agreed, but a certain level of paranoia does...

Among all the bookkeeping scandals there's one that didn't
get much media attention but which is much bigger.
The Pentagon admits it has $2.3 trillion (!) of unaccounted
expenses. That's a stack of $100 bills of 2300 km high,
or the distance from Madrid to Berlin. In the same order as
the total external debt of the U.S.
And when that's admitted who knows the actual amount isn't
even much larger.
Rumsfeld announced it on 10 september 2001.
Just one of those things people would believe is a coincidence
I suppose.

Manuel

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

8/23/2004 10:13:28 PM

> "Ashcroft Orders Libraries To Destroy Copies Of Laws -
> Federal Statutes On Asset Forfeiture May Not Be Published

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/article.cfm?archiveDate=08-10-
04&storyID=19400

or

http://tinyurl.com/64t6b

-C.

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

8/23/2004 10:31:58 PM

I wrote...

> http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/article.cfm?archiveDate=08-10-
> 04&storyID=19400
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/64t6b

Looks like Gene already found this, though I'm not sure
since I'm not about to turn my head and cough for the
Washington Post for the priviledge of looking at ads while
reading their particular brand of yellow firestarter
sheets.

-Carl

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@...>

8/24/2004 2:03:05 AM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:

> Looks like Gene already found this, though I'm not sure
> since I'm not about to turn my head and cough for the
> Washington Post for the priviledge of looking at ads while
> reading their particular brand of yellow firestarter
> sheets.

It could be worse; it could be the Washington Times. At least the Post
is a real newspaper and has a John P. Souza march of its very own.

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

8/24/2004 8:42:39 AM

> > Looks like Gene already found this, though I'm not sure
> > since I'm not about to turn my head and cough for the
> > Washington Post for the priviledge of looking at ads while
> > reading their particular brand of yellow firestarter
> > sheets.
>
> It could be worse; it could be the Washington Times.

Or... the New York Times. . . eeEEKK!

> At least the Post is a real newspaper and has a
> John P. Souza march of its very own.

The march does help, now that I think about it.

-Carl

🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...>

8/25/2004 5:02:13 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel Op de Coul"
> <manuel.op.de.coul@e...> wrote:
>
> > The unprecedented move, in which US citizens would be unable to
> > read or know the text of the laws they are expected to obey,
> > was another stage in the growing power of President George W Bush."
> >
> > http://www.theamericanchronicle.net
>
> Ashcroft is dangerous, but hysteria won't help:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41220-2004Aug4.html

Oops, they caught us. Never mind... it never happened.

John Starrett