Is Bill Gates the Spawn of Satan, or only a near relative?

I ask this hackneyed question for two reasons:

(1) Having recently installed W2K on one disk, I find it is not
accesible by my Linux install, since Chairman Bill deliberately and
with malice has decided to make it hard to access. Not only is
information on how to do so being hidden, Red Hat at least is too
chicken to take them on and put support in the kernel anyway.

(2) When I highlight something which Windows Media Player will play,
even though it is *not* associated with this file type, it "helpfully"
pops up in a way which is seriously annoying, because it makes it
harder to drag and drop wav, midi or mp3 files.

The man is quite simply a human anus. There are kernel additions which
are said to fix (1) if I dare to give them a try. I don't know about (2).

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:

> (1) Having recently installed W2K on one disk, I find it is not
> accesible by my Linux install, since Chairman Bill deliberately and
> with malice has decided to make it hard to access. Not only is
> information on how to do so being hidden, Red Hat at least is too
> chicken to take them on and put support in the kernel anyway.

I forgot to mention I can, in fact, move files around, but only under
certain conditions, and many people would not be able to move Windows
files to Linux. I have three disks on my computer, with three
different file systems--ntfs, fat32, and ext2. I can move things to
and from fat32 to ext2 under Linux. I can move things to and from ntfs
to fat32 under W2K. I can move things from ext2 to ntfs or fat32 using
the explore2fs program.

I can move an ntfs file to Linux only by moving it to the fat32 disk
under Windows, and then from the fat32 to ext2 under Linux.

> I ask this hackneyed question for two reasons:
>
> (1) Having recently installed W2K on one disk, I find it is not
> accesible by my Linux install, since Chairman Bill deliberately
> and with malice has decided to make it hard to access. Not only
> is information on how to do so being hidden, Red Hat at least is
> too chicken to take them on and put support in the kernel anyway.

What exactly is the malfunction? I had linux and Win2K
running on the same machine, with linux on ReiserFS and
Win2K on NTFS, and had no problems.

> (2) When I highlight something which Windows Media Player
>will play, even though it is *not* associated with this file
>type, it "helpfully" pops up in a way which is seriously
>annoying, because it makes it harder to drag and drop wav,
>midi or mp3 files.

Highlight where? In your browser, on Windows?

> The man is quite simply a human anus.

One shouldn't assume he's personally responsible for every
design decision in Win2K.

> There are kernel additions which are said to fix (1) if
> I dare to give them a try. I don't know about (2).

How could a kernel change fix (2), apparently a Windows
complaint?

-Carl

> I can move an ntfs file to Linux only by moving it to the
> fat32 disk under Windows, and then from the fat32 to ext2
> under Linux.

That sounds like a bloody mess, and ext2 and fat32 are
pretty awful as filesystems go.

-Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:

> > (1) Having recently installed W2K on one disk, I find it is not
> > accesible by my Linux install, since Chairman Bill deliberately
> > and with malice has decided to make it hard to access. Not only
> > is information on how to do so being hidden, Red Hat at least is
> > too chicken to take them on and put support in the kernel anyway.
>
> What exactly is the malfunction? I had linux and Win2K
> running on the same machine, with linux on ReiserFS and
> Win2K on NTFS, and had no problems.

Did you attempt to copy files from reiser to ntfs? If you can do that,
your kernel supported it, which I think is not ordinarily the case,
even now. Red Hat 9 won't do it, for instance.

> > (2) When I highlight something which Windows Media Player
> >will play, even though it is *not* associated with this file
> >type, it "helpfully" pops up in a way which is seriously
> >annoying, because it makes it harder to drag and drop wav,
> >midi or mp3 files.
>
> Highlight where? In your browser, on Windows?

In Windows.

> > The man is quite simply a human anus.
>
> One shouldn't assume he's personally responsible for every
> design decision in Win2K.

One shouldn't assume Richard Nixon ordered all of the excesses of
Watergate, either. He set the tone, the flunkies simply did the sort
of thing he indicated was desired. There's a reason why many people
hated Nixon, despite his accomplishments, and the same is true of Bill
Gates.

> > What exactly is the malfunction? I had linux and Win2K
> > running on the same machine, with linux on ReiserFS and
> > Win2K on NTFS, and had no problems.
>
> Did you attempt to copy files from reiser to ntfs?

If memory serves. This was 2-3 years ago.

> If you can do that, your kernel supported it, which I
> think is not ordinarily the case, even now. Red Hat 9
> won't do it, for instance.

I custom compiled my kernel.

> > > (2) When I highlight something which Windows Media Player
> > >will play, even though it is *not* associated with this file
> > >type, it "helpfully" pops up in a way which is seriously
> > >annoying, because it makes it harder to drag and drop wav,
> > >midi or mp3 files.
> >
> > Highlight where? In your browser, on Windows?
>
> In Windows.

Highlight text in explorer, in interenet explorer, anywhere?
Nothing should "pop" up when selecting text.

-Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:

> Highlight text in explorer, in interenet explorer, anywhere?
> Nothing should "pop" up when selecting text.

I'm not talking about text files or browsers. I'm talking about what
happens when you single-click on one of the above file types while
inside a folder.

No new info, but the story is appearing elsewhere:

http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=10692623

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10419687%255E13762,00.html

http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=24328

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200408/s1174826.htm

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/12/1092102569423.html

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/12/1092102569108.html

> > Highlight text in explorer, in interenet explorer, anywhere?
> > Nothing should "pop" up when selecting text.
>
> I'm not talking about text files or browsers. I'm talking
> about what happens when you single-click on one of the above
> file types while inside a folder.

First we need to know if you have single-click = double-click
turned on. If not there is a deeper problem.

If so, what you get is the default action. Even though you
may have told windows you want App X to open File Type Y,
"open" may not be the default action. So go back to that
file type and set it as default, delete the "play" action
or whatever's offensive, or associate App X with "play".

The only gotcha is apps that steal associations when they
run. All such apps I've ever used have an option to turn
this behavior off.

-Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:

I got rid of the problem finally by turning off Webview ("Enable Web
content in folders".)

> I got rid of the problem finally by turning off
> Webview ("Enable Web content in folders".)

As I said, you had single-click = double-click turned
on. You'd do well to understand what I else I wrote,
too.

-Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> > I got rid of the problem finally by turning off
> > Webview ("Enable Web content in folders".)
>
> As I said, you had single-click = double-click turned
> on. You'd do well to understand what I else I wrote,
> too.

What you wrote, so far as I understood it, didn't seem to work. I did
not, for intance, seem to have single-click = double-click turned on.

> > > I got rid of the problem finally by turning off
> > > Webview ("Enable Web content in folders".)
> >
> > As I said, you had single-click = double-click turned
> > on. You'd do well to understand what I else I wrote,
> > too.
>
> What you wrote, so far as I understood it, didn't seem to
> work. I did not, for intance, seem to have
> single-click = double-click turned on.

That option is: Folder Options -> General -> Single-click
to open an item. If you didn't have this on and single-
clicking opened an item, it would be perverse. This option
may be tied to Enable Web Content, but I've never had that
enabled so I wouldn't know. And it apparently isn't part
of Windows XP 2002 (despite what the Help file says), so I
can't test it.

-Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:

> That option is: Folder Options -> General -> Single-click
> to open an item. If you didn't have this on and single-
> clicking opened an item, it would be perverse.

I tried changing that, but it didn't help.