Re: [metatuning] Digest Number 1037

Hi Kurt,

> > Yes, perhaps with some work we could figure out some way to enable replies to
> > e-mails, which is secure. However, since the archive isn't made dynamically,
> > we are still faced with the problem of how to integrate the replies into the
> > archive.

> Yes, I see, or I'm beginning to. Maybe there is somewhat I can take what
> you have done and convert it to something of a slightly more dynamic nature.
> I have some experience with generating html dynamically, but I'm not a
> database guru, and would probably end up using a flat-file approach, which
> might not perform well enough. Or maybe it would be ok?

It will probably be clearer once I upload the completed archive and
you see what it is like. Tuning-Math is nearly ready but spent
today sorting out a number of niggly things in it. Hope it will
be ready for upload some time tomorrow.

The way it works, to describe it some more,is that
I split the digests into the individual messages.
Then I make a whole load of html pages for those
messages with them embedded between <PRE> </PRE>
tags (for the text ones anyway).

> > If you buy the commercial version of it then you can
> > backup the messages, and restore them to another site
> > if you want to move it. That could deal with the
> > question people have about whether it should
> > be on a private web space.

> Yes, right, that's a big deal. And I think you said something like this,
> but now I can't find it, so I'll say it: One of the keys here might be to
> prototype something that demonstrates something *really* good, to make
> people aware of how much better things can be, and therefore to inform and
> inspire those (e.g. Monz) who might be creating a tuning list solution at
some point

I've made a new test forum for us to play with to see how it works
with a test area to try out the fun formatting and things.

> > If you buy the commercial version of it then you can
> > backup the messages, and restore them to another site
> > if you want to move it. That could deal with the
> > question people have about whether it should
> > be on a private web space.

> Yes, right, that's a big deal. And I think you said something like this,
> but now I can't find it, so I'll say it: One of the keys here might be to
> prototype something that demonstrates something *really* good, to make
> people aware of how much better things can be, and therefore to inform and
> inspire those (e.g. Monz) who might be creating a tuning list solution at
> some point.

Yes indeed, needs to be pretty good to make it worthwhile
to change.

This one is a very feature rich set
and may show what we are missing
at yahoo groups with our now slightly
old fashioned kind of interface.

Has threading - and easy use of
ascii tables and superscripts and subscripts
and things... You can also upload attachments
with your messages.

- just images in the freeware version but
anything in the pro version. So one
would be able to upload a midi or
mp3 attachment for instance, not
to files aream, I think it would
be right there
with your message.

There's one thing that I can't test
yet though - you can only use it by
the web page at present.
I would need to set up a cron job
on the server to scan the pop3
e-mail box, or they have
some other methods one can use too
- but anyway I'd need to contact
the admin for my web site to
figure out the details for
taht.

> > It is the forum software used by my software
> > reseller RegNow and they have clearly used
> > it for years with no problems, so I'm
> > confident it is well made. They will
> > also have met security issues and
> > dealt with them.

> Yes, the only problem I see is that it looks very-well-formed already and I
> don't know from what I saw how customizable it would be if people didn't
> like the overall "shape" of it. Well for example we would want to be able
> to import messages from your archive into it. Do you see a way to be able
> to do that?

It is certainly well customisable though I haven't explored many of its
features yet.

If a forum lets you post to it via e-mail
then my program has a feature that lets it
forward all the e-mails

Again that would require permission

I'd forward e-mails from posters who
gave permission for their e-mails to be
forwarded (- maybe would need to ask
permission from everyone again
for this as it isn't quite the
same as the archive).

Anyway here it is to try it out:

http://www.robertinventor.com/microtonal_firebird_scripts/discus.cgi

See what you are missing here :-).

One big drawback - it doesn't yet have an
option to send e-mails in digests.
So it is probably no good for us
or for very high volume lists.
Though the other side of things is that
you can watch only one thread I believe
and see what is happening there.

http://support.discusware.com/forum/messages/9/3633.html#POST44988

Here is a site with a big list of freeware
and commercial forum scripts:

http://www.thinkofit.com/webconf/forumsoft.htm

It lists this as an example that offers digests:

Robert