Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup metatuning israei -kurd connection

http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FF26Ak01.html

Thought this was interesting in considering that they are genetically
related.
Also explains the riff developing with Turkey
which BTW finally allowed the first Kurdish speaking radio station.
The Kurds are the largest ethnic group on the globe without a country
and date back as a group 10,000 years
-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗Paul Erlich <PERLICH@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
> http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FF26Ak01.html
>
> Thought this was interesting in considering that they are
genetically
> related.
> Also explains the riff developing with Turkey

This genetic similarity tree doesn't seem to support the idea of the
Turkish as more distant genetically:

http://www.roperld.com/HomoSapienEvents.htm

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

as we know DNA evidence is not always distinct from politics

Paul Erlich wrote:

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...>
> wrote:
> > http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FF26Ak01.html
> >
> > Thought this was interesting in considering that they are
> genetically
> > related.
> > Also explains the riff developing with Turkey
>
> This genetic similarity tree doesn't seem to support the idea of the
> Turkish as more distant genetically:
>
> http://www.roperld.com/HomoSapienEvents.htm
>
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-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

nice charts though.
the evidence of the bering strait crossing has no evidence of support
in evidence of paths or dispersal of humans
it is also refuted by every north american myth

Paul Erlich wrote:

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@...>

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Erlich" <PERLICH@A...> wrote:

> This genetic similarity tree doesn't seem to support the idea of the
> Turkish as more distant genetically:
>
> http://www.roperld.com/HomoSapienEvents.htm

According to this, Norwegians are closer to Germans than they are to
Swedes.

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

🔗monz <monz@...>

hi Kraig,

i'm sympathetic to your point, which is probably true
about the Kurds ... i looked online to verify what you
say, and while i didn't find verification, the Kurds
certainly are *one* of the largest if not *the* largest.

but i also thought it good to add that there are
*many* ethnic groups without countries around the
world, some of them huge. the situation for dozens
(or perhaps hundreds) of big ethnic groups in many
parts of Africa is similar to that of the Kurds:
split up into several different countries whose
boundaries were drawn by European colonial powers,
and no place to call "their own".

at this stage of the game, many are calling into
question the very validity of ethnic-based nationalism
... but the peoples who feel left out continue to
struggle for autonomy -- which is precisely *why*
there is so much violence in Africa.

-monz

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:

> http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FF26Ak01.html
>
> Thought this was interesting in considering that they
> are genetically related.
> Also explains the riff developing with Turkey which
> BTW finally allowed the first Kurdish speaking radio
> station. The Kurds are the largest ethnic group on
> the globe without a country and date back as a group
> 10,000 years
> -- -Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

The person who originally stated the connection Israeli connection with
the Kurds has sent me something that confirms what was on the page that
Paul put it
.
I agree and it is good to be reminded that so many countries boundaries
in africa were set up to breed dissension and split tribes into different
countries also. It seems the best way to have people recognize their '
citizenship of the world' is to first allow them to do so with there
"tribes". As Russia showed one cannot politicize these connection away and
as soon the pressure is realized, they once again organize along these
natural boundaries. So instead of trying to rid of them we need to work
with them . Often these tribes develop the very things that are needed for
larger organizations. We all know the down side of such things.

monz wrote:

> hi Kraig,
>
> i'm sympathetic to your point, which is probably true
> about the Kurds ... i looked online to verify what you
> say, and while i didn't find verification, the Kurds
> certainly are *one* of the largest if not *the* largest.
>
> but i also thought it good to add that there are
> *many* ethnic groups without countries around the
> world, some of them huge. the situation for dozens
> (or perhaps hundreds) of big ethnic groups in many
> parts of Africa is similar to that of the Kurds:
> split up into several different countries whose
> boundaries were drawn by European colonial powers,
> and no place to call "their own".
>
> at this stage of the game, many are calling into
> question the very validity of ethnic-based nationalism
> ... but the peoples who feel left out continue to
> struggle for autonomy -- which is precisely *why*
> there is so much violence in Africa.
>
> -monz
>
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST