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Re: [metatuning] Digest Number 959

🔗Manuel Op de Coul <manuel.op.de.coul@...>

5/27/2004 3:15:35 AM

Yes, have a look at the videos on the webpage, or see
the whole http://www.globalresearch.ca website.
On the video it didn't look to be in such a bad shape,
but assuming that it was, why was it destroyed in such
a hurry, without checking properly if people are inside?
Normally it takes several days of preparation, so were
the explosives put in before 11-9? If not, can that be
done so quickly, in a building that burns? Or was it
done to give the owner a huge insurance profit?

Manuel

🔗kylegann1955 <kgann@...>

5/27/2004 12:49:00 PM

Following your links, I came across these three articles offering
purported evidence that the video of Nick Berg being beheaded was a fake:

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HAV405A.html
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CAR405A.html
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SAT405A.html

They seem very convincing - though of course, their video could have
been faked just as easily as the famous one could have. The story is
that U.S. military faked the beheading video in Abu Ghraib itself in
order to deflect the growing chorus demanding Rumsfeld's resignation.
Makes sense to me. Can anyone vouch for this Global Research organization?

Kyle

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

5/27/2004 4:23:02 PM

Don't know who these people are, but the more i looked into the berg thing ,
the more it seemed not quite right. I often get this gut reaction feelings to
things ( like the pentagon plane) when they first happen that seems to play
out in the long run that something is not right.

For instance can you imagine you being able to go into iraq on ones
resources. I doubt if any of us could get past the border or didn't arose
suspicion on the way.

kylegann1955 wrote:

> Following your links, I came across these three articles offering
> purported evidence that the video of Nick Berg being beheaded was a fake:
>
> http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HAV405A.html
> http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CAR405A.html
> http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SAT405A.html
>
> They seem very convincing - though of course, their video could have
> been faked just as easily as the famous one could have. The story is
> that U.S. military faked the beheading video in Abu Ghraib itself in
> order to deflect the growing chorus demanding Rumsfeld's resignation.
> Makes sense to me. Can anyone vouch for this Global Research organization?
>
> Kyle
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗kylegann1955 <kgann@...>

5/27/2004 8:33:19 PM

Hi Kraig,

Well, I got very curious - obsessed, actually - and, Googling Berg +
fake + video, found more than 400 web sites expressing the same doubts
about the decapitation video, and have summed up some of the results
on my blog at
http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/archives20040501.shtml#79494.
Whatever the truth is, Global Research is not at all alone in
questioning the official account. If the mainstream media ever gets
off its ass and looks into this, it could be the thing that finally
brings down Rumsfeld - at least!

Kyle

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> Don't know who these people are, but the more i looked into the berg
thing ,
> the more it seemed not quite right. I often get this gut reaction
feelings to
> things ( like the pentagon plane) when they first happen that seems
to play
> out in the long run that something is not right.
>
> For instance can you imagine you being able to go into iraq on ones
> resources. I doubt if any of us could get past the border or didn't
arose
> suspicion on the way.
>
>
> kylegann1955 wrote:
>
> > Following your links, I came across these three articles offering
> > purported evidence that the video of Nick Berg being beheaded was
a fake:
> >
> > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HAV405A.html
> > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CAR405A.html
> > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SAT405A.html
> >
> > They seem very convincing - though of course, their video could have
> > been faked just as easily as the famous one could have. The story is
> > that U.S. military faked the beheading video in Abu Ghraib itself in
> > order to deflect the growing chorus demanding Rumsfeld's resignation.
> > Makes sense to me. Can anyone vouch for this Global Research
organization?
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> >
>
> -- -Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

5/27/2004 9:39:59 PM

http://www.BreakForNews.com/BergWasOnAnEnemiesList.htm
has some stuff on his father company being put on a right wing enemy list.
i can't find the link now but someone researching this supposed radio tower
company noticed that their was no such business registered in the state of
Pennsylvania which maybe not legally required would be not a good business
move as it is generally the first thing done.

It just doesn't make sense for an american Jewish boy to go running
around Iraq as a free agent unless he was naive beyond all belief. Even then
it seems others would not have allowed such a thing. I just doesn't add up
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/15/22827/0477
here is a rather redundant list of 50 points to the berg hoax

As a footnote i attempted twice to go to Iraq via the french ambassador
to iraq in 1988 ( i met them while in the south of france) and was
unsuccessful ( i was told i was an american and that was enough).
From what i can tell though it does not have the traditional music community
that Iran seems to have.

kylegann1955 wrote:

> Hi Kraig,
>
> Well, I got very curious - obsessed, actually - and, Googling Berg +
> fake + video, found more than 400 web sites expressing the same doubts
> about the decapitation video, and have summed up some of the results
> on my blog at
> http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/archives20040501.shtml#79494.
> Whatever the truth is, Global Research is not at all alone in
> questioning the official account. If the mainstream media ever gets
> off its ass and looks into this, it could be the thing that finally
> brings down Rumsfeld - at least!
>
> Kyle
>
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, kraig grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> > Don't know who these people are, but the more i looked into the berg
> thing ,
> > the more it seemed not quite right. I often get this gut reaction
> feelings to
> > things ( like the pentagon plane) when they first happen that seems
> to play
> > out in the long run that something is not right.
> >
> > For instance can you imagine you being able to go into iraq on ones
> > resources. I doubt if any of us could get past the border or didn't
> arose
> > suspicion on the way.
> >
> >
> > kylegann1955 wrote:
> >
> > > Following your links, I came across these three articles offering
> > > purported evidence that the video of Nick Berg being beheaded was
> a fake:
> > >
> > > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HAV405A.html
> > > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CAR405A.html
> > > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SAT405A.html
> > >
> > > They seem very convincing - though of course, their video could have
> > > been faked just as easily as the famous one could have. The story is
> > > that U.S. military faked the beheading video in Abu Ghraib itself in
> > > order to deflect the growing chorus demanding Rumsfeld's resignation.
> > > Makes sense to me. Can anyone vouch for this Global Research
> organization?
> > >
> > > Kyle
>
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST

🔗Manuel Op de Coul <coul@...>

5/29/2004 9:15:26 AM

Berg apparently talked with Michael Moore.
http://www.nomorefakenews.com

Manuel

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

5/29/2004 1:55:36 PM

WTF.

Very shady, I thought it was fishy from the start.

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