Taliban genocide

Try this to get into the heads of the Taliban:

http://www.hazara.net/taliban/genocide/mazar2/mazar2.html

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--- In metatuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> Try this to get into the heads of the Taliban:
>
> http://www.hazara.net/taliban/genocide/mazar2/mazar2.html
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Thanks Johnny. That is a great link. Thes guys are nasty, alright.
Reminds me of the descriptions I have read of the Cambodian genocide.
Uneducated brutish soldiers being led by commanders only marginally
more intelligent, eliminating whole classes of people. I have a
feeling many Muslim sympathizers will be horrified when they learn of
the true nature of these people.

John Starrett

Johnny,

--- In metatuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> Try this to get into the heads of the Taliban:
>
> http://www.hazara.net/taliban/genocide/mazar2/mazar2.html

I suppose you could post endless links to the horrors being
committed. And you could do it for places all over the world; the
African continent has seen this and worse in recent years.

And I would also expect the above reporting to be just as it is, on a
website devoted to the most persecuted peoples with regard to the
Taliban. They should know, certainly, of the horrors.

But I fail to see how ignorance of any of this, of looking at as many
facets of the situation as possible, can be considered negative. More
killing will beget more killing will beget more killing.

I don't have an answer, but I'm not about to stop thinking. If
nothing else, that page contained the instructive quote:

"Hazaras are not Muslim. You can kill them. It is not a sin."

Mullah Manon Niazi
Governor of Mazar-e Sharif
Speaking to a crowd in a mosque after the fall of mazar city

That doesn't sound essentially different from saying "they are
animals and do not deserve to live", which is one proposal put forth
on these pages

Jon

John,

--- In metatuning@y..., "John Starrett" <jstarret@c...> wrote:
> I have a feeling many Muslim sympathizers will be horrified when
> they learn of the true nature of these people.

Agreed in part, because it can't possibly be any more brutal and
despicable. But isn't it critical to separate Muslims, as a group,
from the brand of Islam that the Taliban (profess to) follow?

Jon

--- In metatuning@y..., "Jon Szanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> John,
>
> --- In metatuning@y..., "John Starrett" <jstarret@c...> wrote:
> > I have a feeling many Muslim sympathizers will be horrified when
> > they learn of the true nature of these people.
>
> Agreed in part, because it can't possibly be any more brutal and
> despicable. But isn't it critical to separate Muslims, as a group,
> from the brand of Islam that the Taliban (profess to) follow?
>
> Jon

Oh yes, but I am speaking of the Muslims in other countries whose
leaders convince them that the US is the enemy, and who therefore
support the Taliban because they are against the US also. I'm sure the
fringe Talibanians have at least an inkling of how nasty these folks
are, but many others, including some Palestinians, express support for
bin Laden. He has wide support outside the Taliban, but most of those,
I am sure, do not have access to information.

John Starrett

In a message dated 10/1/01 10:49:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
JSZANTO@... writes:

> But isn't it critical to separate Muslims, as a group,
> from the brand of Islam that the Taliban (profess to) follow?
>
>

This may be the big question to raise. Certainly, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia
have supported Taliban Islam, and to some large degree, continue to do so.

And certainly Omar wanted Taliban Islam to be the pure basis of future Islam.
Frankly, Bin Laden found some great loopholes, cashing in on Khomeini's type
casting the U.S. as the Koran's "Great Satan."

Johnny

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John,

--- In metatuning@y..., "John Starrett" <jstarret@c...> wrote:
> Oh yes, but I am speaking of ...

Thanks for the clarification, I see your point better now.

Jon