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new non-lethal sonic weapon to be deployed in Iraq

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

3/30/2004 11:08:44 AM

http://tinyurl.com/2ghxu?__Secret_Scream

These new nonlethal weapons send chills up my spine. But
how are they worse than bullets? There are some interesting
questions in ethics here. Similar to the nuke vs. litenuke
controversy...

-Carl

🔗kylegann1955 <kgann@...>

3/30/2004 12:32:12 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ghxu?__Secret_Scream
>
> These new nonlethal weapons send chills up my spine. But
> how are they worse than bullets? There are some interesting
> questions in ethics here. Similar to the nuke vs. litenuke
> controversy...
>

And these will only be used in Iraq, never on protesters in American
cities. Oh no....

What a dilemma: join in a protest, take the risk of being deafened.

Kyle

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

3/30/2004 3:34:09 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ghxu?__Secret_Scream
>
> These new nonlethal weapons send chills up my spine. But
> how are they worse than bullets? There are some interesting
> questions in ethics here. Similar to the nuke vs. litenuke
> controversy...

Kraig Grady posted something about this a few weeks back. IIRC, the company that developed the technology is here in San Diego. Maybe I should stick in my custom ear plugs, gather up a bunch of gongs and anvils, and go play a Real Loud Concert outside their offices.

Speaking of nukes vs. ... and earplugs, I noted some of the decibel readings in the article. I finally used some discretionary funds last year to buy custom earplugs for the orch work. One day we were playing a suite from Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliette", and we sit *behind* the French Horns. My section colleague brought his db meter, and yeahsureyoubetcha it was loud: they clocked in between 114 and 116 db in the screaming sections.

Send 'em over, I say.

Cheers,
Jon

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

3/30/2004 4:52:26 PM

Jon Szanto wrote:

>--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> >
>>http://tinyurl.com/2ghxu?__Secret_Scream
>>
>>These new nonlethal weapons send chills up my spine. But
>>how are they worse than bullets? There are some interesting
>>questions in ethics here. Similar to the nuke vs. litenuke
>>controversy...
>> >>
>
>Kraig Grady posted something about this a few weeks back. IIRC, the company that developed the technology is here in San Diego. Maybe I should stick in my custom ear plugs, gather up a bunch of gongs and anvils, and go play a Real Loud Concert outside their offices.
>
>Speaking of nukes vs. ... and earplugs, I noted some of the decibel readings in the article. I finally used some discretionary funds last year to buy custom earplugs for the orch work. One day we were playing a suite from Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliette", and we sit *behind* the French Horns. My section colleague brought his db meter, and yeahsureyoubetcha it was loud: they clocked in between 114 and 116 db in the screaming sections.
>
>Send 'em over, I say.
>
A buddy got me on the guest list to hear Yngvie Malmsteen
later this week. You bet I'm wearing ear plugs!!!

BTY: it's 99% nostalga for me! :)

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* David Beardsley
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🔗Paul Erlich <PERLICH@...>

3/31/2004 10:18:33 AM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley <db@b...> wrote:

> A buddy got me on the guest list to hear Yngvie Malmsteen
> later this week. You bet I'm wearing ear plugs!!!
>
> BTY: it's 99% nostalga for me! :)

I saw him once. Didn't like the music, but was so impressed by the
sound of every note being picked (as opposed to the usual guitar
hammer-ons and pull-offs) that I spent the next year and a half re-
learning all my licks and exercises with every note picked, until I
was comfortable doing it at 182 bpm (four notes per beat). I haven't
practiced for years but this was a good experience for me to go
through -- unfortunately I didn't work on a _swing_ version of this
process . . .

Next week, for the amusement of myself and my headbanger saxophonist,
I'm going to try to catch this fusion shredfest at my neighborhood
club (Johnny D's):

WEDNESDAY, APR. 7- FRANK GAMBALE/ OHM
A night of virtuosity from two of the giants in popular instrumental
music- Frank is regarded as a guitarist's guitarist from his years as
member of Chick Corea's Return To Forever, and Ohm's CHRIS POLAND has
likewise been lauded for his work as guitarist with Megadeth (Peace
Sells..). They've teamed up on this once in a lifetime tour, both
bringing new music to Boston for the first time.

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

4/1/2004 10:30:46 PM

Paul Erlich wrote:

>--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley <db@b...> wrote:
>
> >
>>A buddy got me on the guest list to hear Yngvie Malmsteen
>>later this week. You bet I'm wearing ear plugs!!!
>> >>
I forgot the ear plugs, but was able to listen to
raga on the way home. ;)

>>BTY: it's 99% nostalga for me! :)
>> >>
>
>I saw him once. Didn't like the music, but was so impressed by the >sound of every note being picked (as opposed to the usual guitar >hammer-ons and pull-offs) that I spent the next year and a half re-
>learning all my licks and exercises with every note picked, until I >was comfortable doing it at 182 bpm (four notes per beat). I haven't >practiced for years but this was a good experience for me to go >through -- unfortunately I didn't work on a _swing_ version of this >process . . .
>
> >
He doesn't pick everything. And it isn't about speed for me, but
his post-baroque/classical extension of Blackmore and Hendrix.
He was the only one who did that neo-classical thing well.

>Next week, for the amusement of myself and my headbanger saxophonist, >I'm going to try to catch this fusion shredfest at my neighborhood >club (Johnny D's):
>
>WEDNESDAY, APR. 7- FRANK GAMBALE/ OHM
>A night of virtuosity from two of the giants in popular instrumental >music- Frank is regarded as a guitarist's guitarist from his years as >member of Chick Corea's Return To Forever, and Ohm's CHRIS POLAND has >likewise been lauded for his work as guitarist with Megadeth (Peace >Sells..). They've teamed up on this once in a lifetime tour, both >bringing new music to Boston for the first time.
>
> >
Ew. I'll pass. Not a Gambale fan. When he started playing
with Corea, it was the stamp of death for fusion.

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* David Beardsley
* microtonal guitar
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